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Wow. All of this over three seconds of an episode that had no real impact on the storyline? Suddenly Admiral F-Bomb's outburst looks tame!
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Yeah this episode certainly picked up can't wait for the next one.
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Yes now that the argument about some silly little ship is over let's discuss episode 3 haha!
Not thrilled about how they continue to make Picard look slow, weak & frail. You watch him on talk shows and he zips around just fine lol! But I love the fact that in ep 3 it appears writers are trying to address one of those funny never explained issues from old trek.
When I was young it always annoyed me how in TNG supposedly a Borg who got his individuality somehow broke a friggin cube and caused a rebellion on it of sorts when assimilating individuals is what the Borg do lol. Voyager & FC ended up adding a lot of info on how the borg worked, how they connect, and made it pretty obvious that assimilating ex borgs (eg 7 of 9, the borg kids, locutus etc) back into the fold wasn't going to break anything lol, in fact they wanted them. Yes Hugh was a Borg test tube baby and not a previous individual unlike those others I mention but it shouldn't really matter HOW they became an individual when you're grabbing someone and pumping nanites into their blood and connecting them to the hive lol.
However it looks like the new trek writers are carving a story where in reality, Hugh went back to the Borg they reassimilated him no probs but then a few hours later on the trip back to delta they found a nice little yummy Romulan intelligence vessel on the way to assimilate, they start 'processing them' and then 'something' goes wrong (Romulan virus? weapon? racial nanite rejection like the Denobulans?). Hugh presumably wakes up and pops out of his alcove again thinking its somehow caused by him (hence why he later tells Picard in Descent that it was his fault), all the other borgs who don't know how to be individuals start goin nuts and they kick off a nice little rebellion which then at some point Lore arrives on the scene and takes control of them and they escape on the light cruiser which we see in Descent (small borg ships inside big borg ships is nothing new). In fact this new obvious Romulan ex-borg fears of Dahj's sister (ie synthetics) could very well be relating to trauma from what Lore did to many of them when he took over things which once again gives me hope Lore will somehow come into this new story at some point. Probably a long shot though haha..
Am I way off.. we shall see haha.
When I was young it always annoyed me how in TNG supposedly a Borg who got his individuality somehow broke a friggin cube and caused a rebellion on it of sorts when assimilating individuals is what the Borg do lol. Voyager & FC ended up adding a lot of info on how the borg worked, how they connect, and made it pretty obvious that assimilating ex borgs (eg 7 of 9, the borg kids, locutus etc) back into the fold wasn't going to break anything lol, in fact they wanted them. Yes Hugh was a Borg test tube baby and not a previous individual unlike those others I mention but it shouldn't really matter HOW they became an individual when you're grabbing someone and pumping nanites into their blood and connecting them to the hive lol.
However it looks like the new trek writers are carving a story where in reality, Hugh went back to the Borg they reassimilated him no probs but then a few hours later on the trip back to delta they found a nice little yummy Romulan intelligence vessel on the way to assimilate, they start 'processing them' and then 'something' goes wrong (Romulan virus? weapon? racial nanite rejection like the Denobulans?). Hugh presumably wakes up and pops out of his alcove again thinking its somehow caused by him (hence why he later tells Picard in Descent that it was his fault), all the other borgs who don't know how to be individuals start goin nuts and they kick off a nice little rebellion which then at some point Lore arrives on the scene and takes control of them and they escape on the light cruiser which we see in Descent (small borg ships inside big borg ships is nothing new). In fact this new obvious Romulan ex-borg fears of Dahj's sister (ie synthetics) could very well be relating to trauma from what Lore did to many of them when he took over things which once again gives me hope Lore will somehow come into this new story at some point. Probably a long shot though haha..
Am I way off.. we shall see haha.
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so far picard has been amazing. I have loved every minute of it. I have had the same questions you all have had so far . where is lore and so forth. i am going to bet they will touch on all of our questions at some point. They couldnt have overlooked all of that. even if they don't it will still be good.
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Hiding...this is too creepy.
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I'm in love with this series. There have absolutely been a few missteps that I disagree with them doing, but overall I am incredibly excited to see where the story takes us
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i couldnt agree more. im loving the show so far
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After first episode i was really hoping that "Picard" will be to my liking, but after episode 2 and 3, i am very skeptical about final outcome. Acting, casting, dialogs, money in 24. century, Raffi as addict and Picard who is out of his character(14 years ignoring Raffi, really? When has captain Picard ever ignored anyone?) are all terriblev stuff in this show. Still, i like romulan ship designs. F-bombs? Really? There were bitchy and nasty admirals before in the past, but they were more eloquent, a trait that writers of "Picard" have yet to demonstrate. I am watching this till the end out of respect for Jean-Luc Picard(i hate that JL nonsense) but i am not optimistic anymore...
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Family (Star Trek: The Next Generation)
Picard was estranged from his brother Robert years even decades.
As to the F bomb
Humans are flawed even Starfleet officers even those of high rank. To me it grounds the show. Lord knows I know high level officers that curse like you would not believe ... Okay LOL I'm one of them.
As a Veteran with touch of ptsd I can tell you that we all cope in different ways again Human and flawed.
We all tend to withdraw from pain , disappointment and betrayal of what we hold dear we held dear for alive time. Even and especially the things that were our rocks the cores of our foundations.
Even the best of us are simply Human no matter how high the pedestal we rest upon...
Family (Star Trek: The Next Generation)
Picard was estranged from his brother Robert years even decades.
As to the F bomb
Humans are flawed even Starfleet officers even those of high rank. To me it grounds the show. Lord knows I know high level officers that curse like you would not believe ... Okay LOL I'm one of them.
As a Veteran with touch of ptsd I can tell you that we all cope in different ways again Human and flawed.
We all tend to withdraw from pain , disappointment and betrayal of what we hold dear we held dear for alive time. Even and especially the things that were our rocks the cores of our foundations.
Even the best of us are simply Human no matter how high the pedestal we rest upon...
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Not to mention, look at the platforms on which they are aired. There is no way any of the previous series would have been aired in the 60's, 80's, and 90's with cursing. Being that there were strict rules for over the air content. Picard is on a played for streaming app with a more lenient set of rules.
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Episode 4 update: this show just keeps getting better and better!
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I must admit, I am soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo glad they are not on Earth. Episode 4 was very entertaining.
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Hello:
I have yet to watch the show, although I am very excited that is it actually gojng very well! However my brother has been able to watch it and was laughing out loud because not only one of the main cast actors is chilean, but also he gave chilean curse words during the battle scene! The first one was unmistaken, but the second one had a wrong mexican subtitle
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I have yet to watch the show, although I am very excited that is it actually gojng very well! However my brother has been able to watch it and was laughing out loud because not only one of the main cast actors is chilean, but also he gave chilean curse words during the battle scene! The first one was unmistaken, but the second one had a wrong mexican subtitle
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I love the TOS bird of prey, suitably updated. Continuity but not hitting you over the head with references.
Add spoilers in spoiler tags in the future please. You can see a list of bbcodes here: http://msfc.com.au/community/index.php?help/bb-codes - Majestic/Admin
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I have many Problems with this show, but hey it's ok. If you have fun it's super, why I should write?
To spoil your fun? No, I don't.
To spoil your fun? No, I don't.
I also liked the Bird of Prey.
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By all means, please say your piece. Just wrap them in spoiler tags so the individual reader can decide if they choose to read or not. I would love to "hear" your opinion.
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WTF? ICHEB? WHY?
Really not thrilled with what they've done with Seven, either.
This one's starting to make me question the direction of the show. Feels more like an episode of Dark Matter or Killjoys
Really not thrilled with what they've done with Seven, either.
This one's starting to make me question the direction of the show. Feels more like an episode of Dark Matter or Killjoys
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Episode 4 seen (belated).. WE'RE OFF!:
Guess I better hurry up and watch Ep 5 now instead of reading comments as that's just asking for spoilers haha.
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Well things have finally taken off! Enjoying the fact we're back in space.. loved the look of the Romulan refugee colony (particularly in the flashback sequences) with the giant 'world tree' background, although in the opening planet shot I wish we'd seen the Enterprise E approaching (considering they made some interesting modifications to the D I'd be interested to see what they do with the E). Backstory of the Romulan Samurai dude & his history with Picard was interesting, although Picard now walking around with a Elf looking dude that slices off heads feels a bit weird lol, but no doubt they'll be some big fun action bits with him down the track (which will aggravate oldschool trek purists to no end I'm sure haha).
Enjoyed the space battle, sure enough it was a classic 22nd century Romulan Bird of Prey (nice tip of hat to old Trek), retrofitted for lawless system warlord related activities lol. Interesting to see all these different hologram crew member variants captain Chris has. 7 of 9 has arrived! Will be very interesting to see how much they delve into her past and backstory post Voyager return. Also the holodeck stuff explains why she's in Patrick's 'home' in the trailers. I know people were complaining/making fun of the Picard sword scene in the original trailer, but it was fine, they even made him took kinda tough before he did the expected 'I'm not fighting you/playing your games' thing. Although his comment about having bad knees annoyed me, I don't care if you're 95yrs old, it's 24th century, people aren't gonna have 'bad knees' lol (we're already getting into 3D printing/replicating joints & cartilage now so it's only a matter of time), would rather they just continue to try and hide any difficulties RL Patrick might have, although I still maintain he seems to zip around just fine in real life on talk shows and stuff though lol.
Anyway we're already off to another planet in the teaser for the next ep so things are definitely moving along now lol! Although I'm a little worried about all that silly dress up stuff.. I swear to god if the next ep is like the Casino planet sequence in Ryan Johnson's cr*ptastic Star Wars film and black eye patch gangsta Picard is throwing dice with cheesy overly excited cgi aliens I'm gonna throw my Tv lol.
Oh and I'm probably off the mark with the Lore theory previously posted.. sounds like they're going for something bigger.. harbinger of doom stuff lol!
Enjoyed the space battle, sure enough it was a classic 22nd century Romulan Bird of Prey (nice tip of hat to old Trek), retrofitted for lawless system warlord related activities lol. Interesting to see all these different hologram crew member variants captain Chris has. 7 of 9 has arrived! Will be very interesting to see how much they delve into her past and backstory post Voyager return. Also the holodeck stuff explains why she's in Patrick's 'home' in the trailers. I know people were complaining/making fun of the Picard sword scene in the original trailer, but it was fine, they even made him took kinda tough before he did the expected 'I'm not fighting you/playing your games' thing. Although his comment about having bad knees annoyed me, I don't care if you're 95yrs old, it's 24th century, people aren't gonna have 'bad knees' lol (we're already getting into 3D printing/replicating joints & cartilage now so it's only a matter of time), would rather they just continue to try and hide any difficulties RL Patrick might have, although I still maintain he seems to zip around just fine in real life on talk shows and stuff though lol.
Anyway we're already off to another planet in the teaser for the next ep so things are definitely moving along now lol! Although I'm a little worried about all that silly dress up stuff.. I swear to god if the next ep is like the Casino planet sequence in Ryan Johnson's cr*ptastic Star Wars film and black eye patch gangsta Picard is throwing dice with cheesy overly excited cgi aliens I'm gonna throw my Tv lol.
Oh and I'm probably off the mark with the Lore theory previously posted.. sounds like they're going for something bigger.. harbinger of doom stuff lol!
Guess I better hurry up and watch Ep 5 now instead of reading comments as that's just asking for spoilers haha.
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Yup will never forgive them for Icheb. What a piss poor way to kill off a character that was rather popular in Voyager.
IMO the show lost something with this episode. Even Seven didn't feel right.
IMO the show lost something with this episode. Even Seven didn't feel right.
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Yeah.. episode 5.. wow.. If people here disliked it you don't have to worry about me arguing with you on this one guys. As this episode broke me too, or more precisely it broke my enjoyment of the show. I didn't enjoy that at all. I thought maybe if I sleep on it I'd feel better but nope, today I'm even grumpier about it haha. Up until now I've only had little nitpicks and have really enjoyed show and have defended it when people have complained about it "not feeling like star trek" but there was next to nothing Star Trek feeling about Ep 5. Those people who complained about past eps not being star trek are gonna looooooove this one lol. I don't wanna walk away from a Star Trek episode feeling frustrated and miserable. When they played the exciting trailer for the next ep and all the cool Borg stuff at the end I didn't even give s***. I was like.. whatever. They're gonna have to work hard in the next few eps to undo the damage that one just did. I can only hope that they had to go that dark and callous to setup the audience to be brought back to the light and happy ending lol. But I can't help but think that if it turned me off that badly then all those people out there who's really not been that into the new show and were barely holding on will probably be like "stuff this!" and be done with it after seeing that ep lol.
Urgh.. end of rant. Breath Daniel.. Just breath... lol
Like I said.. they're gonna need to work hard to undo the damage this episode did. I think I'd rather rewatch most of the episodes in discovery season 1 than ever watch that episode again lol.
Everywhere I go so far I've seem pretty horrified responses to ep5. I've seen a couple of dudes say they loved ep5 though, I was like WAAAT lol.
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For starters the acting felt a bit weird and wooden in this ep. Picard & 7 scenes felt weird, felt more like the actors were catching up more than the characters haha. 7 felt a little too different and Patrick didn't feel very 'Picardy'. His french gangster over acting rouse was funny but just didn't feel like something Picard would do, felt like I was watching one of Patrick's stage plays lol. For a French born character his french accent was pretty bad haha!
Can't remember what forum I was talking in but there was a guy who was all annoyed about how upset Raffi was about loosing her security clearance lol, well he's gonna love this ep and it pretty much says she turned into a alco & drug addict and messed up her family after that incident lol. Messed up drug addicts and alcoholics on earth, I'm sure Gene would love that lol. But hey I'm sure she'll have her recovering addict redemption story a happy ending with her dr son at some point and people will wonder if they're watching an episode of Chicago Med & not Star Trek lol.
But lets get to the real jewel of the episode.. I liked Voyager a lot but its not my favourite old trek show, probably more 3rd fav behind TNG & DS9. So considering how much this ep annoyed me I feel bad for all the super Voyager fans out there. You're NOT in for a good time here guys, I REALLY do feel bad for you guys and say sorry. Pretty much straight off the bat poor old (now grown up) Borg kid Icheb is utterly and brutally tortured/dissected and then murdered. Obviously the former was by the 'bad guys' but the later was by his Borg mum 7 of 9! Yes that's right, die hard voyager fans who love 7 of 9 and have been waiting for her return will literally get to see her shoot her own adopted son in the first 20 seconds of seeing her lol. He does the whole "im too far gone, put me out of my misery" thing everyone's seen a million times and she obliges. Get f****** mate! I get it, he's probably missing a few vital cybernetic organs but if he bleeds out or dies on route so be it, but at least try to throw him over your shoulder and carry your sons ass out of there. I mean I'm sure she didn't exactly have a nice state of the art medical bay next door ready to go or a big starship to beam up to but still it.. just.. felt.. wrong. Oh and apparently she just left him there too giving the black market guys EXACTLY what they wanted anyway as the crime lord chick brags later in the ep about dissecting him. Wtf?????
But don't worry Voyager fans there's more character assassination coming for your enjoyment haha. 7 of 9 is definitely not the one you know anymore lol.. now she's PTSD Aragorn ranger'ing around the galaxy shooting lots of people vigilante style.. in fact I think they even call her a vigilante in one scene lol. You know all those boring episodes of Voyager where we got endless Janeway and 7 of 9 scenes (funny now considering how much the actors disliked each other) handcrafting her into a civilized 24th century human being? Well say goodbye to that folks cause now she's a messed up Bourbon drinking badass assassin for hire! She's helping those in need who can't help themselves and is more than happy to kill a few hundred people in the process if they get in her way *cue dramatic 80s action music* lol!
So what now then.. I mean in her final scene she lies to Picard, beams back down and offs the crime lord chick and then starts mowing down the place and it cuts away. The end! So that's answers the question of will she be a regular.. nope.. she's gooone. Maybe she'll come back later? Maybe she's return in a future season? Maybe they'll even be a nice happy ending redemption story for her down the track too (although that doesn't bring poor Icheb back does it lol)? Or maybe not lol and that'll be the end of her story and every time Voyager fans re-watch the old show they'll be like "oh look there's Icheb, when voyager gets home he joins starfleet and gets brutally tortured and murdered for spare parts.. and oh look there's 7 of 9, she's the one that kills him and leaves him there to be dissected for said parts lol, and spends the rest of her life miserable and shooting up half the galaxy in revenge." It's likethe new Star Wars films.. I don't enjoy seeing my favourite childhood characters being brutally murdered in front of me. Because now when I re-watch the original stuff I just see their cheap deaths. Data's death in Nemesis had a similar effect on me so that's why I was so happy about this show as it gave me hope that they'd "do a star trek 3" and find a way to resurrect him. But now I find myself wondering how many other beloved characters are gonna get killed or messed up on the road to that happy ending, assuming thats even what happens, we may not even get that lol.
Anyway sorry.. back to the slaughter.. Bruce maddox.. they found him.. and he was all a messed up stressed alcoholic too of course.. cause everyone's messed up these days.. aaaaaaand then he was dead. All he bloody did was tell them her name and that shes at the cube and next thing we know he's getting offed by his own girlfriend (20 or so years younger than him I might add, yeeeaaahhh way to go on office romance bro! pulling those youngers chicks aint easy bro.. high 5!) giving us our innocent clumsy girl is actually working for bad guys shock moment at the end of the episode.. fake gasp.. yeah.. like I said before I was already completely disconnected by that stage and just didn't even care.
Can't remember what forum I was talking in but there was a guy who was all annoyed about how upset Raffi was about loosing her security clearance lol, well he's gonna love this ep and it pretty much says she turned into a alco & drug addict and messed up her family after that incident lol. Messed up drug addicts and alcoholics on earth, I'm sure Gene would love that lol. But hey I'm sure she'll have her recovering addict redemption story a happy ending with her dr son at some point and people will wonder if they're watching an episode of Chicago Med & not Star Trek lol.
But lets get to the real jewel of the episode.. I liked Voyager a lot but its not my favourite old trek show, probably more 3rd fav behind TNG & DS9. So considering how much this ep annoyed me I feel bad for all the super Voyager fans out there. You're NOT in for a good time here guys, I REALLY do feel bad for you guys and say sorry. Pretty much straight off the bat poor old (now grown up) Borg kid Icheb is utterly and brutally tortured/dissected and then murdered. Obviously the former was by the 'bad guys' but the later was by his Borg mum 7 of 9! Yes that's right, die hard voyager fans who love 7 of 9 and have been waiting for her return will literally get to see her shoot her own adopted son in the first 20 seconds of seeing her lol. He does the whole "im too far gone, put me out of my misery" thing everyone's seen a million times and she obliges. Get f****** mate! I get it, he's probably missing a few vital cybernetic organs but if he bleeds out or dies on route so be it, but at least try to throw him over your shoulder and carry your sons ass out of there. I mean I'm sure she didn't exactly have a nice state of the art medical bay next door ready to go or a big starship to beam up to but still it.. just.. felt.. wrong. Oh and apparently she just left him there too giving the black market guys EXACTLY what they wanted anyway as the crime lord chick brags later in the ep about dissecting him. Wtf?????
But don't worry Voyager fans there's more character assassination coming for your enjoyment haha. 7 of 9 is definitely not the one you know anymore lol.. now she's PTSD Aragorn ranger'ing around the galaxy shooting lots of people vigilante style.. in fact I think they even call her a vigilante in one scene lol. You know all those boring episodes of Voyager where we got endless Janeway and 7 of 9 scenes (funny now considering how much the actors disliked each other) handcrafting her into a civilized 24th century human being? Well say goodbye to that folks cause now she's a messed up Bourbon drinking badass assassin for hire! She's helping those in need who can't help themselves and is more than happy to kill a few hundred people in the process if they get in her way *cue dramatic 80s action music* lol!
So what now then.. I mean in her final scene she lies to Picard, beams back down and offs the crime lord chick and then starts mowing down the place and it cuts away. The end! So that's answers the question of will she be a regular.. nope.. she's gooone. Maybe she'll come back later? Maybe she's return in a future season? Maybe they'll even be a nice happy ending redemption story for her down the track too (although that doesn't bring poor Icheb back does it lol)? Or maybe not lol and that'll be the end of her story and every time Voyager fans re-watch the old show they'll be like "oh look there's Icheb, when voyager gets home he joins starfleet and gets brutally tortured and murdered for spare parts.. and oh look there's 7 of 9, she's the one that kills him and leaves him there to be dissected for said parts lol, and spends the rest of her life miserable and shooting up half the galaxy in revenge." It's likethe new Star Wars films.. I don't enjoy seeing my favourite childhood characters being brutally murdered in front of me. Because now when I re-watch the original stuff I just see their cheap deaths. Data's death in Nemesis had a similar effect on me so that's why I was so happy about this show as it gave me hope that they'd "do a star trek 3" and find a way to resurrect him. But now I find myself wondering how many other beloved characters are gonna get killed or messed up on the road to that happy ending, assuming thats even what happens, we may not even get that lol.
Anyway sorry.. back to the slaughter.. Bruce maddox.. they found him.. and he was all a messed up stressed alcoholic too of course.. cause everyone's messed up these days.. aaaaaaand then he was dead. All he bloody did was tell them her name and that shes at the cube and next thing we know he's getting offed by his own girlfriend (20 or so years younger than him I might add, yeeeaaahhh way to go on office romance bro! pulling those youngers chicks aint easy bro.. high 5!) giving us our innocent clumsy girl is actually working for bad guys shock moment at the end of the episode.. fake gasp.. yeah.. like I said before I was already completely disconnected by that stage and just didn't even care.
Urgh.. end of rant. Breath Daniel.. Just breath... lol
Like I said.. they're gonna need to work hard to undo the damage this episode did. I think I'd rather rewatch most of the episodes in discovery season 1 than ever watch that episode again lol.
Everywhere I go so far I've seem pretty horrified responses to ep5. I've seen a couple of dudes say they loved ep5 though, I was like WAAAT lol.
I will pay the episode one compliment though.. their attention to detail on past Trek events once again is impressive. Eg they acknowledged Picard's Borg past which I was worried they wouldn't. They mentioned Quark in the bar sequence. And the biggest one would be during the horrible Icheb torture surgery scene where the lady callously says "where's your cortical node buddy?" as shes ripping stuff out of him. In season 7 of Voyager Icheb risked his life and gave his to 7 of 9 when her failed and they realised she couldn't survive without one while he might, which of course he did.
Meanwhile some self appointed comedian just thew this hand grenade into a Voyager facebook group. I'm sure you can image how well that went down with them lol. Too soon? Yeah just a bit lol.
Meanwhile some self appointed comedian just thew this hand grenade into a Voyager facebook group. I'm sure you can image how well that went down with them lol. Too soon? Yeah just a bit lol.
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If I had anything to say Uplifting, it is by accident. I am satisfied to say, this is not Star Trek in any sense of just saying Star Trek. I am a bit addicted to the story, and want to get through season 1, but...this is some sick and twisted Cronenberg nightmare again....I'm done.
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History repeats it self ....So it is 1987 again ...or it is 1994 other way same old tune couple of Episode in "Owe it ruined "" this is not Star Trek" ...
Come on people Let's not throw out the baby and the bath water because of a pimple on its ass . It just one Episode give it time.
Just as in 1987 "TNG" & 1994 "DS9" A good Star Trek show take that time to find its legs or should have they cancelled tng and DS9 off the bat.
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Hey I didn't say the whole show sucked and I was gonna quit it. I'm just saying that episode SUCKED (especially for Voyager fans) and they're gonna have to work hard to bring back my enjoyment of it. Which is entirely possible since as you know I've enjoyed all the other eps to the point of defending them when others said they hated them.
I've calmed down now anyway and starting to ponder if the next ep will be really cool due to the borg stuff.
It's a good thing this isn't the old days where they have mid season breaks as I wonder how people would not even bother to return to it after a mid season break ep like that. I'm seeing a lot of anger out there atm.
Oh and apologies for that 7 of 9 PTSD wise crack in my post, that was rather stupid and insensitive of me considering your earlier comment.
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I've calmed down now anyway and starting to ponder if the next ep will be really cool due to the borg stuff.
It's a good thing this isn't the old days where they have mid season breaks as I wonder how people would not even bother to return to it after a mid season break ep like that. I'm seeing a lot of anger out there atm.
Oh and apologies for that 7 of 9 PTSD wise crack in my post, that was rather stupid and insensitive of me considering your earlier comment.
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Hey, "It just one Episode give it time." How many time should I give, Episode 3 till 5, in my perspective was dirt, sorry for the hard words. I am done with Trek. I never thought, that I am say this. I annoy myself a little, about myself, because I am still writing about this thing.
But not important, I am a little human, with a little perspective. Have fun!
But not important, I am a little human, with a little perspective. Have fun!
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To quote your fellow countrymen "No worries on the PTSD thing"
Yes ! It did Suck for Voyager fans.
But it did have a effect it piss off and angered them but it also showed were 7 of 9 is coming from , Like a sledgehammer to the feels .
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Were all entitled to our own viewpoints nothing wrong nothing right absolutely.
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Nothing for nothing, I just like to add I wrote a Journal meaning my POV, my opinions, and not trying to change anyone's else's. This means if you weren't on my watchlist, then you would never even see it. Over the last four days, I was inundated with by one lone idiot who had to dismiss my views as "Not a real Trekker", as well "Living in the days that the Dinosaurs died, and Cable TV". I'm not accusing anyone, and like I said if you like what you like, I might not like it, but I would fight and protect your right to express your view as it were. This is why it's no longer enjoyable for me, I'm weird and an outcast. My view, the first 2 seasons of TNG was a bit lame, but it was Star Trek. DS9 the same, but it was Star Trek, even the dark days of Berman Trek...it WAS Star Trek. It more than shoving Star Trek in the title, it's showing at least SOME relevance that came before. Respecting and researching the source material, other than popping in some familiar faces, and dropping familiar names, changing Character's values, and...being Star Trek in name only. That's my opinion, I will stick with it. Yes, I am addicted to the story, but as far as "Based on Star Trek: The Next Generation" I don't see it.
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"Living in the days that the Dinosaurs died, and Cable TV" Such a young and modern girl you are Lady Green
Were this old fart of a man can remember "the rise of the Dinosaurs "good eating by the way" and broadcast Outdoor TV Antennas on a black and white tv that had a tuning knob"
Yep im old.
Not a word Cabal.
Anyway Picard resonates with me, given were of Similar rank and background "Military lifer here."
We both resigned our commissions in protest. Mine was for not wanting to be out of the cockpit and to be placed in the hell that is found behind a desk. Not as selfless as Picard but.
But I do have a very similar viewpoint of having the power / resources at my command to having none it is very changing. I somedays "Hell most days" I have to remind myself I'm no longer in uniform.. and in some ways I have to ask if I'm the same person I was..
So I see this show in a different light than most.
As close as I'm get to this patter song Cabal
It was bad enough my daughter had me sing it to her for her birthday at her party
Were this old fart of a man can remember "the rise of the Dinosaurs "good eating by the way" and broadcast Outdoor TV Antennas on a black and white tv that had a tuning knob"
Yep im old. Not a word Cabal.
Anyway Picard resonates with me, given were of Similar rank and background "Military lifer here."
We both resigned our commissions in protest. Mine was for not wanting to be out of the cockpit and to be placed in the hell that is found behind a desk.
Not as selfless as Picard but.But I do have a very similar viewpoint of having the power / resources at my command to having none it is very changing. I somedays "Hell most days" I have to remind myself I'm no longer in uniform.. and in some ways I have to ask if I'm the same person I was..
So I see this show in a different light than most.
As close as I'm get to this patter song Cabal
It was bad enough my daughter had me sing it to her for her birthday at her party
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"Living in the days that the Dinosaurs died, and Cable TV" Such a young and modern girl you are Lady Green
Were this old fart of a man can remember "the rise of the Dinosaurs "good eating by the way" and broadcast Outdoor TV Antennas on a black and white tv that had a tuning knob"
Not a word Cabal.
Did they taste like Chicken? Did you ride a Raptor to school as a kid?
And you thought you had to worry about Cabal
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Did they taste like Chicken? Did you ride a Raptor to school as a kid?
And you thought you had to worry about Cabal
No Chicken taste like them
and no had to walk uphill both ways
At least you did not ask me to sing
