First Indication of Star Trek 11.

[StarBlade]

it's supposed to be the original 1701, I don't see why they had to mess with the design that much.

The presence of torpedo tube launchers on the 'neck' make me wonder how they're going to retcon this one: why would they take the tubes OUT of the '60s Connie when they were present in this apparently-original version of the Connie, only to add them back to the design in the '70s movie refit? It doesn't really make a whole lot of sense.

Every other element of the design --even the awkwardly phallic warp nacelles-- I can accept as being more akin to the original "Cage" pilot sort of look for the Enterprise.

Obviously the look of the ship counts for precisely zero. The Enterprise-E looked real nice but if First Contact had sucked maybe we'd all have different opinions of her, too. I still want to at least hear a story synopsis before I completely dismiss this one. Still, I hope they know what they're doing. What worries me most is that they know and they don't care about what guys like me think. The more new Trek I see, the more I'm convinced that's exactly the problem.

 

[Knight]

that is one ugly design. Majestic's connie redesign looked better, as did that Gabe K one.

And what is up with that bridge design?

The movie has potential if the cast live up to expectations, and can pull the whole thing off, but the ship just seems wrong...

 

[Majestic]

Thanks Knight, i'm flattered.

Yeah I do think a few alterations on both the ship and bridge are in order. Too me it just doesn't fit in with any of the Trek series all too well but I guess only time will tell. I will leave my judgement till I actually see the movie but I would've rather seen Gabe K's design or another fan design over the one they have.

 

[Theta Sigma]

New trailer:
YouTube - Star Trek 11 Jornada nas Estrelas (Trailer 14 nov 2008)

 

[Jasoneagle]

I do have to wonder about one thing though... A Sort of Star Trek Standard with Kirk, Who will be the Lady he get to Flirt with in this Movie.

 

[EAS_Intrepid]

I do have to wonder about one thing though... A Sort of Star Trek Standard with Kirk, Who will be the Lady he get to Flirt with in this Movie.

It's like with the Bond Girls in a James Bond Spy thriller Maybe they should let Daniel Craig play Kirk....

I could image that, actually.

 

[La Patience]

I am Very worried about this film. I hope they don't Ruin any chance to do another one. I can't live without Trek. Ok maybe that was a little to far but I really hope they make another after this.

The ship looks very un-TOS. it is not a very good move. I don't see what was wronfg with the original ship design. They could have just moddified it a little but kept most of it true to its predisesor.

Plus the Bridge design is like going into the Mac world. It looks far more sophisticated than the Soveraign class.

And another thing i am wary of is the Cast. I like the actors but I have grown up with the TV series cast making the movies. These actors wouldn't end up making a TV series (Oh I so hope they make another TV series) and one aothe rthing. What is up with the New Romulan design They are going for a Piraty look. WTH it makes no sense.

Romulans with Tatoo's.

I will be going to see it of course as it is Trek but I hope I don't come out wishing I had never seen it.

 

[Jasoneagle]

Speaking of the rommies I hope that they dont screw up the time line and have the feds see the rommies.

 

[Elrond]

The main problem with the ship is that it tries to follow in the NX line, to look more modern than the NX class because the NX looked like it was from the 24th century. Enterprise completely screwed the series. It's not that Enterprise was that bad, from a non-fan point of view, but from a fan point of view, it was the grand motherload of ****. They killed Star Trek with Enterprise - now they have to double-kill it with this movie. It's like kicking a dead horse.

I'll see the movie, because I want to keep an open mind about it and it might end up alright, but I have so many doubts about it. There are so many fundamental problems with it. I didn't think that the Enterprise even existed when Kirk was that young. Spock shouldn't look so much younger than he did in the original series, because Vulcans really don't age that quickly. And the Enterprise itself looks like it belongs in Captain Picard's fleet, being a battlefield support ship like an Akira or something.

Majestic's Conny and the new Enterprise design - there's no comparison between the two. Majestic's ship is by far the true Constitution. If the franchise honored the fans at all, they would have chosen a design like that instead of some ship that looked like an NX (Akiraprise) evolution. Someone like Majestic would have been perfect for putting in the new design for the ship. A design made BY the fans FOR the fans would be heaven.

Then there's the thing with Spock in the trailer. From what it looks like, he's attacking Kirk and being over-emotional. That's not the Spock I remember from the Original Series. Please, tell me, what were they thinking!? It's like, suddenly orders are passed, "quickly, come up with a plot that will alienate 15 million Trek fans so that we can destroy the franchise yet make a lot of money in the process."

There's another thing with the movie I have a problem with though, and I know it might not seem like too big of a deal, but the idea of it is tiring at best. So many movie series these days have to eliminate the numbering from the movies. Generations did that by eliminating '7' from Star Trek and just putting Star Trek, and the subtitle 'Generations'. So the numbering system ended. But now they went one step further. So far, there's no title for Star Trek 11 other than "Star Trek". And here's another thing that just makes the whole idea for the movie seem somewhat...odd:

Star Trek 1-6: Original Crew
Star Trek 7-10: TNG Crew
Star Trek 11: Original except not-so-original Crew WTF?

What's next?

Star Trek 12: Younger version of Captain Picard commanding the Stargazer, except the guy playing Captain Picard in this case ends up being the same guy who played Shinzon on Nemesis. Keep in mind, this is if we're lucky enough to see the franchise continue after ST 11.

Seriously, what will they come up with next?

 

[Muad'Dib]

Wow, I must admit that I am a bit surprised by all the negativity surrounding this film. But then I am far from a standard "Trekie" to begin with. In most respects I HATE DS9; yup that's right, the series all Trekies go bananas over saying how magnificent it is, how epic, yada yada really really sucked as far as I'm concerned. Aside from Sisko being cool and Dax being really hot, DS9 was once giant borefest with all their nonesensical prophets crap and lame Dominion War off again on again episodes [My God 800,000 people were killed last Friday in the war but a ship full of Vulcans has come to challenge Sisko to a baseball game in the holodeck action must be taken or hey that holographic lounge lizard is being threatened by holographic mobsters and we must help now or anything Rom related...meanwhile the Dominion completely ignores the sole source to endless resupply and reinforcements and what could arguably be described as the most strategically important geographical target in the entire galaxy (except for a single 2 part episode where they had the bad taste to use the exact same battle sequence from the Klingon Civil War assault on DS9 just replacing Klingon ships with Dominion; I mean really guys frame by frame recycled footaged, really?)].

But moving onto this movie in specific, I have to say that I'm glad they didn't use the same lame design of the 60s' TOS, even with modern technology in shows like Enterprise and DS9 those ships never quite looked right. If anything I find this to be more of a combo between TOS and TMP. I really wish everything in this movie (See uniforms) was more TMP to be honest, as ST2 was the only real Trek movie that I find really merits a mention as a really good movie outside of being just a good Trek film(ST6 gets an honorable mention). As far as the design itself it isn't like wow that's awesome, but I don't find it particularly ugly either; but that's just a matter of taste I guess. Frankly I don't know, guess that as I've grown up my opinion of Trek has changed pretty violently. I do like TOS but only in the same hammy way I like the old Lost in Space and Buck Rogers. I hope JJ does to this new group of Trek films what Braga did with Battlestar Galactica so Trek is new again.

As far as casting goes I also think this film is being bashed unfairly, I mean so many people complain about acting, did you guys really ever watch TOS? For one Pine is cast in the shoes of Shatner not Anthony Hopkins, I think he'll be just fine. If anything the young kid playing Kirk saying his whole name made me cringe more than Pine, that though is the classic case of lame lines (Even the best of films have them). Quinto as young Spock is fine for me as this really only emphasizes this is a true reboot and not just a prequel to be fit somewhere in an already repeatedly broken and mangled continuity. The rest of the cast is fine also. The action looks great, especially compared to most Trek action. The sets are bright sure but I'll reserve judgment until I see the final set pieces. Nero looking like a Reman is also OK with me, I'm so sick of "Trek aliens": He's got a wrinkle in his nose or an earring on his eyebrow, or no they wear togas, obviously they're aliens.

The lack of story continuity also is great for me as I really really want this to be completely independent from the original canon, I want new canon just like Ultimate Universe in Marvel comics. I don't want this to fit with ENT-TOS-TMP-TNG-Beyond or anything like that, I want a total fresh start for Star Trek, a new direction with fresh ideas even if they keep the general timelines the same (Romulan Wars, Creation of Federation, Klingon Cold War, etc). In TOS continuity many of these characters served together for the first time during the actual series run, so seeing all of them together now as recent graduates further gives me hope this is not continuity and instead a brand new clean slate for Trek as I'm hoping.

I mean no offense to those who think differently or who are hardcore fans of the established series and canon. I just kind of lost my enthusiasm for Trek once I branched out into better (IMO) sci-fi storytelling and universes like Babylon 5, DUNE and Farscape; and I see this as an opportunity to make me really love Trek again if JJ does it right. So here's hoping.

Just my two cents

 

[Jasoneagle]

Honestly, Someone sparked a Decent Idea there with remaking TOS but though they could do it the same as BSG and Totally make new story and such that one only really worked as well as it did because the Majority of the Original BSG fans have grown up a bit (ok so some of us are older we all got to admit it now and than) they where looking to Bring in new Younger Fans not just the Old fans, the only problem with the Trek line is that they Cannon (use terms used already) did not end with TOS you have TNG VOY DS9 not to mention the TNG movies or even TMP all this considering they will be having to recreate the intire Genera of Trek, granted they could do this but a lot of us Hard Core Trekkies (again I will admit I have seen nearly every EP of all Versions of Trek) will not be too happy, there is no younger crowd to catch here, they wanted to try that they should wait a few more years and remake everything than, adding things like (Mentioned before) Kirk and Crew talking Face to Face with a Romulan or even one of the other Races not seen in till the later versions of the Universe than that would upset a great many people, and bare in mind that All TOS TMP TNG and yes even the Ideas of VOY and DS9 where all Gene's Creations there for they are True Trek, and me for one I say keep that fact always in mind when Making something for Star Trek, same with other Sci-Fi Remakes, always ask your selves what would _____ Think about this project.

Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry put together a proposal for a science fiction series in 1960. He publicly marketed it as a Western in outer space as a kind of "Wagon Train to the stars", but privately told friends he was modeling it on Swift's "Gulliver's Travels" intending each episode to act on two levels, both as a suspenseful adventure story, and as a morality parable.

Gene Roddenberry stated that by creating "a new world with new rules, I could make statements about sex, religion, Vietnam, politics and intercontinental missiles. Indeed, we did make them on Star Trek: we were sending messages and fortunately they all got by the network"

So far with what I have read Most of every Ep in all Series of Trek keep to these Rules, Dose this movie?

And if they Do Decide to remake the Series than That Truly is beating a Dead Horse and Gene would (In my Opinion) be turning in his Grave.

As for the bits about Fan Created Ships being used I think that they should have done such, Because what better would bring in the Trekkies? A Model of the USS Enterprise NCC 1701 made by some FX/CGI Guys or one By the fans who (almost every one Here and in the Community have) Grew up with Trek in one way or form?


That will be one a few of my Cents.

 

[La Patience]

I personaly thought DS9 rocked lol but as you said its your oppinion lol. I suppose I bickered on but its just that I don't want trek to die. I will watch it and even bye the special edition DVD lol but whatever I just hope it goes ok.

still Bald rommies

oh and I loved the TMP era (the best ship designs and a good era overall)

 

[kjc733]

I don't think there's anyone who'll argue against the TMP style ships and uniforms!

I personally don't hae anything much against the idea of trying to "reboot" Star Trek, in a way Enterprise attempted to do that, and although some of it was pretty poor, some of it was quite good (last series especially).

I like the "attempt" they've made to cast the crew, the new Spock (can never spell his name so won't even try) especially I think is superb, and I think the new Kirk may be able to pull it off. My only gripe with the casting is they all look about 12! Hopefully this is just the camera shots though.

My gripe with the ship is that it's an icon. Even the first space shuttle was named after it! The Enterprise is a big thing. My sister isn't much of a Trek fan, but when I showed her a pic of the new one her words were that it looked like someone had trodden on it and squashed it! They could have done many things to "reboot" the Enterprise herself, but if anyone who's ever heard of Star Trek can notice that the ship is "wrong" then something is... well... wrong.

I just don't understand how reworking a well known icon will bring in new fans, especially when it will alienate many (and there are an aweful lot out there) existing fans.

I really hope that the film is a good one, and that it's successful. I just have these nasty doubts that won't go away...

 

[Muad'Dib]

That's my point Jason, the entire purpose of a reboot is to remake everything from scratch even if they use familiar or even duplicate events/details. What this means is that the reboot wouldn't affect TOS alone, it would affect the entire ST timeline into a new alternate canon. In ST terms maybe parallel universe might work as best explanation.

In other words TMP might play out differently in this timeline as would the Lost Era, TNG and the rest. It's a brand new continuity and that's what I like about it because it opens the possibility of doing things differently and not have to run into the problem of "but that goes against what this other series said first". The problem with Enterprise, amongst other things, was that they tried to fit it into the old canon and changed so much of what just about every other series had implemented that ultimately it failed in most aspects, many of these were also broken between themselves to begin with so all ENT did was enlarge the convoluted mess to the point where just about nothing made sense.

I'd like to think that Braga changed BSG for artistic and creative purposes, not to attract newer/younger crowds (Though the goal of any show is to garner ratings), but as a writer that is how I tend to look at things. Nevertheless I think any reboot has the potential for working if done right, BSG certainly doesn't have exclusivity here.

As to the age of the actors, Starfleet Academy is like college right? Well they just graduated from Starfleet Academy which would make these characters about what 22 (Average age of graduating college after a 5 year degree if graduating high school at 17 which is average age of graduation there)? Most of these actors are mid-20s to late-20s possibly making them actually too old for the characters.

Also Trek has been stagnant for me for a long, long time; which isn't to say that I didn't enjoy the different series, I did, but the old canon is too condensed and filled with too many inconsistensies already. A totally new timeline and new approach peaks for me an interest in Trek again where yet another time-travelling continuity breaking story would fizzle for me on the spot. (Well at least they didn't put in any Nazis on this one sheesh).

In terms of what Gene Roddenberry would think/want, I think it's important to pay tribute to and maintain the spirit of what he created but not necessarily continue his exact work exclusively. Just because a filmmaker has a different style or decides to tell the same story in a different manner doesn't mean it is disrespectful to the original creator. This is not to say I don't understand your feelings towards wanting things to stay the same or keep in line with what was already established (I have this exact feeling with that horrible new Terminator movie in the works which rips apart all things Cameron) but for one reason or another I feel this has the potential to make things new again instead of continue a formula that for me and some others who have sat through every series and movie feel it's time for a change and something new.

On the ship don't get me wrong, I wish this movie used a sleeker Connie refit (If not the proper Connie reift herself) and we had the burgundy uniforms and all good things ST2. Meyers managed to reinvent Trek and keep continuity going but Trek then was still quite limited (Only TOS, the toons and the motion picture). JJ has to work against Ent-TOS-Toons-TMP-TNG-DS9-Voy all that convoluted broken continuity, all that established background and all those stories hashed and rehashed over and over. If he's not making something completely new (Post Voy) and is tackling established characters in a very established timeline, I think it is more respectful to Roddenberry and the fans to retell things from scratch as opposed to changing yet again what the originals stated as a poor replacement. If this is supposed to be the original canon, then I would be sorely disappointed in this film believe me.

Besides the old Trek is still there; don't think of this as a replacement for the original think of it as a possible alternate version companion of the way the same story might have been told. That's how I'll see it and I'll judge this movie based on its own strength and weaknesses not only in contrast to what was made or established before.

Still trust me I understand your concerns and this might turn out badly in the end but my hopes are up

 

[Amateur]

Well I've seen the trailer (once or twice) and read a lot of mixed views about the new movie, seems that this turn events has got the whole of Trekdom up in arms...

Myself, I think that the movie could be nothing but good for a few reasons. One, I'm going to be completely honest here - I hated TOS. Can't stand it. I find that the plots are too generic and have little to offer in the way of entertainment or originality. Now, I know that there's a lot of fantastic dialogue and character interplay - but I can't say that those things ever really appealed to me. TNG was alright when it started to find its feet, loved DS9 and Voyager, and I personally thought that Enterprise was exactly how TOS should have been, but that's another story...

My point is that this film could, if done right, resurrect an old favourite and make it good enough to stay around. From what I've seen, this is a completely new take on TOS, putting it more in line with Enterprise canon rather than all the others. Loads of people hate the idea of this but I think it has no actual downside. So what if the whole of Trek history is being rewritten? It's not as if it's real, or if the DVD's aren't still available is it?

If the movie is good then a whole new generation (mine probably, I know what my contemporaries like and that trailer seems to be it ) will be willing to watch a series, and then maybe a sequel (a new version of TNG maybe?) and so on.

Admittedly, Star Trek is not Doctor Who; you can't have some flashy lights and get a new character - but if this changes, what I consider, to be the worst Trek series then it can only be good.

Oh, and agree on certain points about the ship. I like it, some fan designs I consider to be better (Gabe Koerner's is possibly my favourite take on the Constitution Class, even though she seems a bit too militaristic) but I can see why they went with this.

Here's hoping that 2009 usher's in a new age for Trek!

 

[StarBlade]

I'd like to think that Braga changed BSG for artistic and creative purposes, not to attract newer/younger crowds

Just for the record, Brannon Braga has nothing to do with Battlestar Galactica (thank the gods). You're confusing him with Ronald D. Moore, who worked with David Eick to "reboot" BSG.

 

[Muad'Dib]

Gah!!!

Thanks Kid, you're absolutely right it is Ron Moore who I'm referring to not Braga...sorry about that. I just remembered it was one of the two who often collaborated together on the series.

In any case, there's an interesting review from Ain't it Cool News on the 20 min press screening and from what is described this movie is shaping up to be exactly what I want...a honest to God reboot and done well. For the read check out:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/39162

 

[Jasoneagle]

As to the age of the actors, Starfleet Academy is like college right? Well they just graduated from Starfleet Academy which would make these characters about what 22 (Average age of graduating college after a 5 year degree if graduating high school at 17 which is average age of graduation there)? Most of these actors are mid-20s to late-20s possibly making them actually too old for the characters.

In terms of what Gene Roddenberry would think/want,

Ok you said a lot there but will address these two Items now only, First To get in the Academy I think the age was 17 but most (at least here in America) People done get out of college in till their mid to late 20's and that is only if they where just going for a Ass or even a Bach degrees. I have a Ass in Aviation Electrical Engineering (if not for the military i would still be in school for it) Different classes need different amounts of time in the Schools, Bones would (to relate to modern times) need 8 years of College to be called Dr. while Scotty could have anywhere from 4-8 years depending on the level of training.

What I meant by the Post about Gene was that he wanted the Stories to each have a Moral Reason, a Lesson for the Viewers, Behind them.

 

[Majestic]

Unfortunatelly I never got to see the trailer as it has been taken down.

Spoiler: Muad'Dib Quote

Wow, I must admit that I am a bit surprised by all the negativity surrounding this film. But then I am far from a standard "Trekie" to begin with. In most respects I HATE DS9; yup that's right, the series all Trekies go bananas over saying how magnificent it is, how epic, yada yada really really sucked as far as I'm concerned. Aside from Sisko being cool and Dax being really hot, DS9 was once giant borefest with all their nonesensical prophets crap and lame Dominion War off again on again episodes [My God 800,000 people were killed last Friday in the war but a ship full of Vulcans has come to challenge Sisko to a baseball game in the holodeck action must be taken or hey that holographic lounge lizard is being threatened by holographic mobsters and we must help now or anything Rom related...meanwhile the Dominion completely ignores the sole source to endless resupply and reinforcements and what could arguably be described as the most strategically important geographical target in the entire galaxy (except for a single 2 part episode where they had the bad taste to use the exact same battle sequence from the Klingon Civil War assault on DS9 just replacing Klingon ships with Dominion; I mean really guys frame by frame recycled footaged, really?)].

But moving onto this movie in specific, I have to say that I'm glad they didn't use the same lame design of the 60s' TOS, even with modern technology in shows like Enterprise and DS9 those ships never quite looked right. If anything I find this to be more of a combo between TOS and TMP. I really wish everything in this movie (See uniforms) was more TMP to be honest, as ST2 was the only real Trek movie that I find really merits a mention as a really good movie outside of being just a good Trek film(ST6 gets an honorable mention). As far as the design itself it isn't like wow that's awesome, but I don't find it particularly ugly either; but that's just a matter of taste I guess. Frankly I don't know, guess that as I've grown up my opinion of Trek has changed pretty violently. I do like TOS but only in the same hammy way I like the old Lost in Space and Buck Rogers. I hope JJ does to this new group of Trek films what Braga did with Battlestar Galactica so Trek is new again.

As far as casting goes I also think this film is being bashed unfairly, I mean so many people complain about acting, did you guys really ever watch TOS? For one Pine is cast in the shoes of Shatner not Anthony Hopkins, I think he'll be just fine. If anything the young kid playing Kirk saying his whole name made me cringe more than Pine, that though is the classic case of lame lines (Even the best of films have them). Quinto as young Spock is fine for me as this really only emphasizes this is a true reboot and not just a prequel to be fit somewhere in an already repeatedly broken and mangled continuity. The rest of the cast is fine also. The action looks great, especially compared to most Trek action. The sets are bright sure but I'll reserve judgment until I see the final set pieces. Nero looking like a Reman is also OK with me, I'm so sick of "Trek aliens": He's got a wrinkle in his nose or an earring on his eyebrow, or no they wear togas, obviously they're aliens.

The lack of story continuity also is great for me as I really really want this to be completely independent from the original canon, I want new canon just like Ultimate Universe in Marvel comics. I don't want this to fit with ENT-TOS-TMP-TNG-Beyond or anything like that, I want a total fresh start for Star Trek, a new direction with fresh ideas even if they keep the general timelines the same (Romulan Wars, Creation of Federation, Klingon Cold War, etc). In TOS continuity many of these characters served together for the first time during the actual series run, so seeing all of them together now as recent graduates further gives me hope this is not continuity and instead a brand new clean slate for Trek as I'm hoping.

I mean no offense to those who think differently or who are hardcore fans of the established series and canon. I just kind of lost my enthusiasm for Trek once I branched out into better (IMO) sci-fi storytelling and universes like Babylon 5, DUNE and Farscape; and I see this as an opportunity to make me really love Trek again if JJ does it right. So here's hoping.

Just my two cents

I must agree 100% what is said above, I found DS9 terrible and much prefered Voy and Ent. I also think Trek needs a reboot, like BSG something new and not continuing on. I have my hopes about this movie but also my doubts but like BSG Reimagined I will await till I see this new Trek but I am excited and really hope it takes off and impresses even those hard core fans. Its about time Trek got good on par with the likes of B5, Farscape etc.

 

[La Patience]

Well if the new trek ends up being as good as Farscape then it should be a blast and from what I have seen of the Trailer it looks real good. I suppose my fears over it being crap just made me think the worst.

Plus a new continuality would be good. there would be no written rules. the future is there for the writers to play with

 

[Knight]

The cast seems like it good be quite good, and it looks like it'll be worth seeing. But the ship is ugly. Like I said, Majestic and that Gabe K guy both came up with better designs. the official new enterprise looks like it was designed by a riceburner/chavs. I'm surprised it doesnt have a spoiler, chrome rims (of the spinner variety!), big bore exhaust, neon underglow and flames up the side.

The tag line should be "boldly going where no ricer has gone before!"

 

[Sqweloookle]

Official trailer 2 site:

New Trailer

 

[Elrond]

The cast seems like it good be quite good, and it looks like it'll be worth seeing. But the ship is ugly. Like I said, Majestic and that Gabe K guy both came up with better designs. the official new enterprise looks like it was designed by a riceburner/chavs. I'm surprised it doesnt have a spoiler, chrome rims (of the spinner variety!), big bore exhaust, neon underglow and flames up the side.

The tag line should be "boldly going where no ricer has gone before!"

Yea, I was kinda surprised that there weren't flames and racing stripes going on on the sides of the ship. In my opinion, the new Enterprise design looks like it's begging for Armageddon. Majestic came up with a far better design.

I think they're going Akiraprise with the new Enterprise design. Speaking of Enterprise, the series was good, I enjoyed it, but it just doesn't fit the plot of the rest of Star Trek. Why did Enterprise have only four seasons? I guess maybe the fans didn't take to it too well.

The new movie is something a lot of people will like, and I'm sure it will be enjoyable on some level. I won't give up on Trek until they've completely destroyed every element that made it great.

 

[Knight]

In my opinion, the new Enterprise design looks like it's begging for Armageddon.

Agreed. I almost hope someone (obviously deluded enough to like it in the first place) makes a model of it for A2, purely so I can download it, and blow it into little tiny pieces. Even a Legacy version would work, for the same reason, the satisfaction of blowing up the 'Ricerprise'

 

[Elrond]

I like that term for the new Enterprise, 'Ricerprise' - definitely just as funny as 'Akiraprise', and just as deserving a name. I'd increase the chunk lifetime in the art_cfg or rts_cfg file in Armada 2 just so that the pieces of the ship would last longer - even more satisfying.

 

[Knight]

I like that term for the new Enterprise, 'Ricerprise' - definitely just as funny as 'Akiraprise', and just as deserving a name. I'd increase the chunk lifetime in the art_cfg or rts_cfg file in Armada 2 just so that the pieces of the ship would last longer - even more satisfying.

Thank you

I cant help but wonder how it would look with a little bit more ricing... drag pipes up the nacelle pylons maybe. Or a wacking great big spoiler off the back of the saucer. It already has neons, spinners (possibly even chrome spinners at the angle of that shot) and big bore exhausts lol....

flipping ricers...

 

[Majestic]

Majestic came up with a far better design.

Thanks Elrond, it wasn't much.

 

[Elrond]

Maybe, but it's way better than what they have for the movie .

 

[Muad'Dib]

So it seems one of the movie's writers, Bob Orci, has gone into the question of whether this movie is canon or not. It's easy to get confused by all his gibberish about quantum mechanics but the short answer is yes, the movie is intended as canon.

Basically the opening has an event which alters the timeline and that's the reason everybody is all together in the Enterprise and not how we remember it. However, unlike most time travel stories where the plot is to restore the timeline as that is the true and right one, this movie takes the TNG episode "Parallels" approach saying that mutliple universes exist simultaneously and all are correct. So while this new universe started out in the one we know, the old one isn't replaced instead the viewer's attention is shifted to the parallel universe while the other continues without issue.

I'm a bit disappointed this isn't a total reboot as I feel this is what ST truly needs but if they don't just do the whole we must restore the future crap I'll give it a shot.

EXCLUSIVE: Bob Orci Explains How The New Star Trek Movie Fits With Trek Canon (and Real Science) | TrekMovie.com

 

[K_merse]

This is one of the craziest ideas I ever heard! And after this anyone can make a Star Trek movie and tell that it is canon, but it's in the parallel universe?
You know how far this leads? In the end, Star Trek will merge with Sliders and noone will know what is "real" and what is "parallel". Why the hell made they another perquisite episode by the way?