MSFC Dominion Mod

[Achilles]

I'm not a fan and I can specify why, the stock texture is hideous, it always was . the design could work but maybe with a new texture?

 

[Majestic]

Yeah it's pretty ordinary to say the least. I did that monstrosity this morning and well as you know via PM's I decided not to use it.

For everyone else, I decided to throw that kitbash into my vault of non-used models and took up the suggestion of Achilles and re-textured (modified the textures actually) his Art of War Metathran stations.

I've only done two so far but they are looking great.

Spoiler: Light Shipyard

Spoiler: Light Shipyard

Spoiler: Starbase

Both still need work on their dominionized versions but they are vastly superior to the nasty A1 stock models I was previously using.

 

[Knight]

They look good Majestic, i love the attention to detail on the textures, especially the little Dominion logo on the "Celestial Fortress"

 

[Majestic]

Not entirely sure if I am going to use that base yet, like the shipyard I may end up kitbashing it. We'll see. I plan to retexture a few Metathran stations for Dominion use.

 

[Aerilon]

Great Minds Majest

I'm using that shipyard too... though, for the Cardassians, not the Dominion. I have something else avaliable for them. One thing I couldn't agree with though, is the two bases. The 'Starbase' and 'Outpost' just don't (to me) look right as Dominion bases.

Maybe thats just me... I changed a few textures, moved a few parts (texture parts) around, and even tinted it purple, didn't work for me.

 

[Majestic]

Yeah I say Dominion stations (considering we have never seen any canon ones) are the hardest stations to get looking good.

But one advantage over ZH I have is that this mod is ment only as a play around one and to be released here in parts for members to play against one another instead of only having stock. Due to this I am not too fussy on the designs, not like I am with YY.

So close enough is good enough for me.

Oh a little update, thanks to some retexture work from Achilles and some minor details by me the Dominion battleship is almost ready. I sent the textures off to Syf for alpha mapping.

Spoiler: Image

Spoiler: Image

Finally as mentioned above I plan on releasing the mod in parts, race by race. First will be the Dominion followed by most likely the Cardassians. Then the garden variety Federation, Klingons and Romulans will most likely be last, in no particular order. The Breen when I do them as I have to pretty much convert, kitbash every model for them so they will take the longest.

 

[Dan1025]

Looking good, keep it up

 

[Majestic]

Thanks Dan, well here is a little something I did last night as I wasn't in much of a mood for coding.

Thats right, Admiral Log images. The style is almost exactly the same as what I am using in Yesteryears.

Oh and while I am here, the Borg. The Federation's greatest enemy, I never liked the Borg in Armada. I simply don't think that they have been portrayed to any great effect in stock or any mod (Note: I haven't played AOW yet). I feel they aren't like they are in the show, strong and powerful. Well I am going to try and attempt this, that and I know BQ will have my head if I release a MSFC Mod without them.

Simply the Borg won't have 9 classes of vessels like the other races, they will only have a few. So far I have decided upon the probe (VOY: Dark Frontier), sphere and cube. I don't know if I will include anymore than that. The probe will be the spam vessel used in the beginning of a game to simply survive, the sphere as the main vessel used by the Borg and the cube as the ship to crush fleets. Due to the lack of classes, assimilation is necessary for survival while playing as the Borg.

Also note I have the 3 current Borg vessels already, with the cube already converted. You may notice I decided to convert a couple of SFC models for the Borg, I decided that instead of the 12 poly cube or 300 poly sphere that I would have depth and such in the models. As such the cube is under 2000 as is the sphere and the probe is only around 300 pollies.

 

[Dan1025]

Nice images, the Dominion one looks especially cool with the logo in the background.

 

[SquireJames]

I tried a similar thing with KA2s log images, I gave each race a different background. I do like the idea of the logos though

 

[Knight]

looking good Majestic, especially the Dominion one

 

[Borg_Queen]

Thanks Dan, well here is a little something I did last night as I wasn't in much of a mood for coding.

Thats right, Admiral Log images. The style is almost exactly the same as what I am using in Yesteryears.

Oh and while I am here, the Borg. The Federation's greatest enemy, I never liked the Borg in Armada. I simply don't think that they have been portrayed to any great effect in stock or any mod (Note: I haven't played AOW yet). I feel they aren't like they are in the show, strong and powerful. Well I am going to try and attempt this, that and I know BQ will have my head if I release a MSFC Mod without them.

Simply the Borg won't have 9 classes of vessels like the other races, they will only have a few. So far I have decided upon the probe (VOY: Dark Frontier), sphere and cube. I don't know if I will include anymore than that. The probe will be the spam vessel used in the beginning of a game to simply survive, the sphere as the main vessel used by the Borg and the cube as the ship to crush fleets. Due to the lack of classes, assimilation is necessary for survival while playing as the Borg.

Also note I have the 3 current Borg vessels already, with the cube already converted. You may notice I decided to convert a couple of SFC models for the Borg, I decided that instead of the 12 poly cube or 300 poly sphere that I would have depth and such in the models. As such the cube is under 2000 as is the sphere and the probe is only around 300 pollies.

Sweet, I am looking forward to this one. That Borg image is my favorite, by the way. Though I doubt it comes as a surprise.

 

[Majestic]

I tried a similar thing with KA2s log images, I gave each race a different background. I do like the idea of the logos though

Yeah I did the different backgrounds with a logo in YY. I am also starting to do that for the buildbuttons as well.

looking good Majestic, especially the Dominion one

I have most of the combat ships for the Dominion done in fact.

Sweet, I am looking forward to this one. That Borg image is my favorite, by the way. Though I doubt it comes as a surprise.

No surprise.

 

[Aerilon]

Am liking the admirals log images Not too sure about that Warship retexture though, looks too... faded for my liking, but each to their own.

 

[Majestic]

Thanks, I make them with a combination of Imagefolio and Photoshop. Once the template is made it's quite easy to pump out great looking admiral log images.

Yeah the Warship texture is a little different, but my aim is to get all the textures to match and Achilles allowed me to use his Diminion models from AOW and he was kind enough to match the Dominion warship/battleship textures as well. Also that model isn't lightmapped yet, once the lightmapped textures are applied it should bring the model up a bit.

EDIT: Save me double posting.

I got the Dominion warship/battleship textures back from Syf this morning and now have all the Dominion combat ships minus the ones Avon will be sending to me (at least last I heard) when he has time ready.

I am now starting to work on the Cardassian combat ships. I am currently looking for a Tonga class and will try (emphasis on the work try) to retexture Zorg's Hideki and cargo freighters using some of Achilles textures. I will also be attempting to do the same to Achilles Norin to match his Galor better and still need to do some minor edits to the Brakus to match the Galor more. After I get them done and do a few minor mesh changes to the Glinnor I will have the Cardassian fleet, combat and non combat completed.

The fleet as it will hopefully stand soon are in the spoiler.

Spoiler: Cardassian and Dominion Fleet List

Dominion
Frigate: Jem'Hadar Attack Ship
Escort: Jem'Hadar Attack Ship Mk2 (Avon)
Destroyer: Dominion Strike Cruiser
Light Cruiser: Jem'Hadar Attack Ship Variant (Avon)
Heavy Cruiser: Dominion Heavy Cruiser [Tenak'talar]
Infantry Cruiser: Jem'Hadar Carrier
Battlecruiser: Jem'Hadar Battlecruiser
Battleship: Jem'Hadar Battleship
Dreadnaught: Jem'Hadar Dreadnaught

Cardassians
Frigate: Hideki
Escort: Norin
Destroyer: Tonga
Light Cruiser: Glinnor
Heavy Cruiser: Galor
Infantry Cruiser: Borad
Battlecruiser: Keldon
Battleship: Barkus
Dreadnaught: Hutet

If I can find a couple more designs for the Dominion (smaller ships preferably) I may add a couple of more hull types/classifications to all the races and hit the number of ships from 9 to 11.

As you can tell I plan on including as many Dominion Wars (game) models in the mod as possible to get a similar feel to that game.

 

[Majestic]

Well time for a double post. Yesterday I spent some time on editing textures, I still need complete the Brakus but I have completed the Klingon BOP to maatch the stations I am thinking of using and the Vorcha from Achilles AOW mod.

Spoiler: Klingons, Glory to the Empire!

I stll have the Negh'Var to do for the Klingons and several Cardassian models not to mention the entire Romulan fleet. But progress is coming along nicely.

 

[Aerilon]

I don't mean to undermine your choice, but you've got the Tonga down as a Destroyer. The Tonga is about the same size (I suppose) as the Bakrus, or if you'd want to match it up to comething canon, I'd say the Akira.

Your project I know, just the Tonga as a Destroyer seems a bit... off?

 

[Majestic]

Well with the models available one must put it where they can. With Galors and Keldons officially cruisers as stated in the series there is a severe lack of destroyers for the Cardassians and thus I choose the Tonga as a destroyer. It may move to a light cruiser before release but that is as far as it would go.

 

[Aerilon]

Noted. And the Cardassian Galor was mentioned as I think everything in TNG and DS9. I recall episodes where the Galor is mentioned as a Cruiser, Destroyer, Battleship and Warship

Leaves the window open to re-classify her. Not too sure about the Keldon though, however, I'd put her as the same class matching the Galor. I expect you are doing this anyway, and it is wise, seeing as they're practically the same ship...

You to be using the Hutet?

 

[Majestic]

Yeah well I have made some changes to the mod. First being the classification of combat vessels. I have decided to adopt the way the Dominion Wars game does it. It also saves people who don't agree with ships being a certain classification (cruiser, destroyer etc) getting upset.

I have also done extensive work on the Dominion in terms of how the ships look. I want to get most of the vessels done before I show them off here but they are looking fantastic.

You to be using the Hutet?

Yes I will be using the Hutet it will be a class 10 vessel, the largest and most powerful of the Union.

 

[Dan1025]

Sounds good, looking forward to seeing them

 

[Majestic]

Well I was going to save this for a later date but I really want to see how many are interested in this as I am so here is a sneak peak of the new and improved, yet still incomplete Dominion fleet.

Spoiler: For the Founders!

Thats right, thats a Storm3D shot with all the models that are completed and have lightmaps applied. By the time of release there will be 14 Dominion ships (4 non combats, 10 combats) and 9 to 10 stations.

So what do you all think?

 

[Starfox1701]

Wow looking good. Nice unified feel to them. I hope you not planning any of those monster battleships the size of super stardestroyers are you?

 

[Majestic]

The Dreadnaught is in, but very restricted, one maybe two will be able to be built during a game and I will be using the FlOps restrict code to limit their production. At the end of the day it would be more worth building a bunch of battleships rather than a Dreadnaught.

In the grand scheme of things, the Dominion will rely on swarming tactics like the show, heaps of bugs and other similar style ships.

 

[Dan1025]

Great looking ships, the similar hull colouring makes them look like they fit together better. Nice work, looking forward to seeing more

 

[Majestic]

Great looking ships, the similar hull colouring makes them look like they fit together better. Nice work, looking forward to seeing more

Thats one of a few standard features I do with all my mods. I sould have more at a later date including some Cardassians.

 

[Aerilon]

Looking good Majest, though them Dominion ships look like they've been outfitted with different textures again.

 

[Majestic]

Yeap just texture edits, I feel that this being the first single Dominion release (not included in a full TC) since Dominion Ultimate in 2002, that I have a responsibility to have them looking and feeling as Dominionish as possible.

I am today actually going to be working on some Dominion stations and last night came up with some ideas for two stations, one a retexture of a A1 stock station and another is a kitbash of sorts.

I would like to see who is interested in doing dome voice-overs for the Dominion? I have not much in the way of scripts but will soon and would like a few people at the minimum to do some Dominion voice-overs for the project.

I just got my hands on a voice changer/manipulator and have yet to try it out but it seems (according to the description) to have many abilities so I won't need many people here and it doesn't really matter what your voice sounds like as I can modify it to my heart's content.

 

[VenerableDread]

I would do that, but I need to record with the mic-headphones that I've got back at my regular home in order to do this, but I will try.

 

[DarkPhoenix]

god it all looks so... so pretty...