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Discovery Series

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Yep, That be given them what STD is worth ... A big nothing ;)
 

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I only watch it as I get it for free on Netflix lol
 

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Alas we here in the States do not have it on our Netflix
 

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This second season of DSC is actually surprisingly good so far. There are still some fridge logic issues, but nothing you're likely to notice as you watch. Both of these episodes have been fun without casually violating continuity or anything. The one thing I really take exception to is them doubling down on Burnham's connection to Spock and Sarek.
 

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And the latest preview clip of Discovery...
... Oops, my mistake :lol2:
 

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I agree with so much of what you say Husker, and yeah, Farscape is in the top 5 tv series I have ever seen and I include that among non-sci-fi giants like Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones.

We all have our preferences. TOS is still my favorite ST show, well above all of the other shows that have come after. I prefer the characters, the writing, the tone and the setting of TOS above TNG-DS9-VOY-ENT-STD. If it weren't for 60s hammy acting (Or what I call OVER-acting), as many 60s films and series did in the era, I would have no complaints with TOS at all (Save special effects, which were improved in the remastered Blu-Rays).

I am heartened to read that the new season is off to a promising start Maj and CABAL, I am looking forward top seeing it...when it's out on Blu-Ray, cause like SciFiFan, I am not paying that garbage streaming service for it.

There are still plenty of choices about STD that infuriate me; but on its own, taking it out of the Prime Universe, I enjoy it for what it is. And as I mentioned, I was pleased to see Star Trek venturing into new territory with a more mature tone and setting for the series, the execution and shoehorning of retcons is what drives me crazy about it. Like CABAL said, the whole Burnham-Spock-Sarek crap was just completely unnecessary and it's one of the things that makes me enjoy the show substantially less.

Dang it kjc!! You had to rub our noses into the show that SHOULD have been Discovery! :lol2:
 

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This second season of DSC is actually surprisingly good so far. There are still some fridge logic issues, but nothing you're likely to notice as you watch. Both of these episodes have been fun without casually violating continuity or anything. The one thing I really take exception to is them doubling down on Burnham's connection to Spock and Sarek.

My only real disappointment of last nights episode was:

bringing the spore drive back really wished they had let it died. Especially with the law suit about their copyright infringement going on.
 

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My only real disappointment of last nights episode was:

bringing the spore drive back really wished they had let it died. Especially with the law suit about their copyright infringement going on.
I knew it was coming back as soon as they announced Culber would return way back when season 1 was still airing. And I still don't see how they're going to pull that off in a way that's even halfway sensible or satisfying.
 

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I think I prefer it this way:
 

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Redundancy and the double penis, mh I questioned me, have the klingon females a double vagina?!
 

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Redundancy and the double penis, mh I questioned me, have the klingon females a double vagina?!
I don't think there was a confirmation of the double penis, as two streams happens with certain piercings of said organ as well...
 

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What was everyone's opinion on latest DSC episode?

Did anyone catch the name of Gorgieou's S31 ship?
 
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Urgh, I don't believe, that Section 31 own her own ships. Ships can be lost, with ultra secret informations, with crewmans you can torture e.c., this S31 is a funny shadow from ds9.
I don't think S31 has a base or own equippment, this is a network, that only exists in the head of less than a few people.
This ultra, mega secret operation S31, I don't believe she have many agents.
Have I see it wrong or was genozid phillipa (oh man :no:, genozid here, genozid there,... but she's cool :exter:) equipped with a cloak device.
Ok, finally a really D7 (boring fanservice), for the new evolution in Star Trek a Serie for the new millenium, I have a plan for the D7:
A bridge with rotation option and canceled Photon Torpedos, because they are to old, nobody will see Photon Torpedos, the new Weapon is a Anti-Fungus Spray :).
More Fungus esoteric. And Ash with a beard, ok adaption of the new klingon hair culture, mhpff.
The Klingons looking equal bad, with hair or not, and in the past they rape the speaking of klingon, now the font. The font is like a earthlike cuneiform, sumer I don't know.
By the way, I like the actress from Ash, because he hasn't a chin, me too.
Weird commentars from weird women I read about the less chin, that's the reason I like him!
 
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Urgh, I don't believe, that Section 31 own her own ships. Ships can be lost, with ultra secret informations, with crewmans you can torture e.c., this S31 is a funny shadow from ds9.
I don't think S31 has a base or own equippment, this is a network, that only exists in the head of less than a few people.
This ultra, mega secret operation S31, I don't believe she have many agents.
Have I see it wrong or was genozid phillipa (oh man :no:, genozid here, genozid there,... but she's cool :exter:) equipped with a cloak device.

Ok, finally a really D7 , for the new evolution in Star Trek, for new spectator habits, a Serie for the new millenium, I have a plan for the D7:
A bridge with rotation option and canceled Photon Torpedos, because they are to old and boring, nobody will see Photon Torpedos, the new Klingon Weapon is a Anti-Fungus Spray :) with light effects, the light for the coolness.

More Fungus esoteric. And Ash with a beard, ok adaption of the new klingon hair culture, mhpff.
The Klingons looking equal bad, with hair or not, and in the past they rape the speaking of klingon, now the font. The font is like a earthlike cuneiform, sumer I don't know.

The next convention I will visit as a really Klingon who burps, farts and behaves badly!
And then I Visit all Discovery Things!
Muhaha, Nogons under my boots.

By the way, I like the actress from Ash, because he hasn't a chin, me too.
Weird commentars from weird women I read about the less chin, that's the reason I like him!
At the end, this klingon female say, call me mother, I remembered me on one episode of game of thrones.

Sorry for double post, I edit, it follows a timelimit error, than i copied and paste, because I don't look in the first.
 

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Correct me if I am wrong but...

STD is now retconning that Klingon wannabe Ash Tyler redesigned the D-7 Battlecruiser to look like its original design? So...it wasn't a progression from earlier ships like the unused D-4 (From ENT), the D-5 and as of yet not canonically seen D-6? It was some Klingon/Human soul hybrid spontaneously made it up?

If so...:thumbsdown::no:
 
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Correct me if I am wrong but...

STD is now retconning that Klingon wannabe Ash Tyler redesigned the D-7 Battlecruiser to look like its original design? So...it wasn't a progression from earlier ships like the unused D-4 (From ENT), the D-5 and as of yet not canonically seen D-6? It was some Klingon/Human soul hybrid spontaneously made it up?

If so...:thumbsdown::no:

I believe, they ignore all from ST Enterprise, pour manny coto!
 

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I just pretend STD is it's own universe/timeline thingy. That way I can ignore all the canon mishaps they've done and enjoy the story for what it is.
 

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STD is in its own timeline, there is no doubt about that, this show doesn't work otherwise. What bothers me is the constant retconning of everything TOS and the bad habit that Star Trek always has about having the core ensemble of any given show being the ones that do everything important in the history of the universe.

Now Tyler designs the D-7, Georgiou manipulates everything even the internal politics of the Klingon Empire, Discovery stopped the entire war, etc. The 5 people surrounding Discovery are the most important people in the whole universe and no one else is important.

Discovery should be one more ship in the fleet, contributing to the events but not always directly shaping their outcome. Can they save the galaxy every once in a while? Sure, it's to be expected. But Jesus let's not have the entire universe revolve around them all the time.

That has always bothered me about Star Trek but Discovery is taking it into whole new highs.

I really, really want to like this show, but the show makers make it increasingly difficult. Anyway, sorry for the negativity but next week we're going to find out that Tilly developed replicators, Saru single handedly brought back his entire species to prominence, Burnham was really the one that led the Federation on the path to the Khitomer accords, Tyler fathered human looking Klingons from TOS and the red angels are the birth of the Q Continuum.
 

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And the Spore drive is more hurtful than standard warp.....oops.
 
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Please be mindful of people on here that have not seen the show but plan to. Anything that can potentially spoil any episodes should be wrapped in a spoiler tag.
 
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Hey,
Yesterday I watch this Video, 50min.
You must be patient. The Film is about License rights in Star Trek. Short explained, with JJ Trek it gives a Alternate Universe Star Trek License and the Canon Star Trek License. The Alternate Universe Licence must be different from the Canon Star Trek. This You see in all the Designs, Customs, Kli(no)gons in the JJ-Films.
With Les Moonves and a Bad Robot deal, the Creators of JJ Trek are involved in the process of developing the Disco Series. And this is a bit difficult to understand, but Disco isn't under the CBS Canon License. Discovery is under the Alternate Universe Licence of Bad Robot (I understand).
(Is this the true Reason, for the exit of Brannon Braga?!)
That means, if the Maker of Discovery say it's Prime, then they have right, it is Prime in the Alternate Star Trek Licence. The Creators can do anything in this alternate Licence.
But everything must be recognizable from the Canon Trek.
That means Canon Star Trek Licence (TOS, TNG, DS9, Voy, Ent) isn't the Alternate Star Trek (Kelvin, Prime).
It is create through marketing, to sell mercahndise e.c..
Ok, I can't verify this, but it makes absolut sense for me. That explain the Constitution, the Style, Holograms, Nogons, ignoring enterprise, the ugly Andorians and Tellerites e.c., because of the licence rights they must be different!
In conclusion they say Discovery is prime, they fooled the fans. Because they keep back, that they not work with the Canon Licence.

And it's sad. Greed, Money, Greed is the real Reason about Star Trek today.

By the way, the last episode 2 04 was good.
-A lot of action, the Story about Saru and .... was very good, but to fast.
-Ok Micheal ruin every scene, sorry for Micheal Fans.
-The Universal Translater Story was a bit stupid, but ok.
-Negative was Pike (how was Pike in the Cage?!): Shoot this thing!
-The Fungus Storyline go to extrem esoteric (from the begin a stupid idea)
-Negative was the explanation with the Holograms and the Enterprise

Why they havn't scientific advisor in the show, Holograms in this fantasy Style don't work.
 
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So I was a bit behind and just caught up. I have to say, for all DSC's numerous flaws, that 'previously on' segment was really cool.
 

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And the latest preview clip of Discovery...
... Oops, my mistake :lol2:
Axanar! No Discovery!

STD is in its own timeline, there is no doubt about that, this show doesn't work otherwise. What bothers me is the constant retconning of everything TOS and the bad habit that Star Trek always has about having the core ensemble of any given show being the ones that do everything important in the history of the universe.

Now Tyler designs the D-7, Georgiou manipulates everything even the internal politics of the Klingon Empire, Discovery stopped the entire war, etc. The 5 people surrounding Discovery are the most important people in the whole universe and no one else is important.

Discovery should be one more ship in the fleet, contributing to the events but not always directly shaping their outcome. Can they save the galaxy every once in a while? Sure, it's to be expected. But Jesus let's not have the entire universe revolve around them all the time.

That has always bothered me about Star Trek but Discovery is taking it into whole new highs.

I really, really want to like this show, but the show makers make it increasingly difficult. Anyway, sorry for the negativity but next week we're going to find out that Tilly developed replicators, Saru single handedly brought back his entire species to prominence, Burnham was really the one that led the Federation on the path to the Khitomer accords, Tyler fathered human looking Klingons from TOS and the red angels are the birth of the Q Continuum.
I will never except Discovery as Star Trek. i have seen enough to only call it discovery. It does not fit in any part of the original Spock's Time Line of Star Trek!
 
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Not to worry Jeremy once the crew of the Relative gets back form their coffee break they'll send someone back in time and fix things. Plus while their at it they can fix the abrams verse by restoring the time line and deleting the hole mess from history. As a side note if you ignore the plots of abrams I thought the casting and effects where great. Guess it just goes to show that the best special effects cant save a poooooooor plot line!
 
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