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Volcanic Ash Cloud Hits Northern Parts of Europe

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The volcano Eyjafjallajokull on Iceland has erupted, less than a month after the previous eruption. But this time, the ash cloud is drifting over Northern parts of Europe, causing air traffic to be grounded.
On Iceland, people has once again been evacuated due to fear of major ice-avalanches and flood in the area.

In Norway, ash has been falling in the Northern parts of the country, as well as in Bergen.
Even the planes and helicopters flying between the hospitals has been grounded due to the ash cloud.
The volcano is continuing to spew out ash, and it's suspected the cloud will be hanging over Norway and Northern Europe for a long time.
The health department are encouraging Europeans with health issues like asthma or cols to stay indoors, and also encouraging healthy people to be cautious.

So far it has not fallen any ash over there I live, but the stench of sulfur is in the air.
I took a picture of the evening sky just recently as I could see a thin layer of clouds hanging over here. I know that then ash clouds gets spread out, they look like those I took a picture of, but it could also be standard clouds. All I know is that the ash cloud is covering the entire Scandinavia, Norway included.

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This looks to be a very serious event for all of Europe. I have been following it via the BBC News feed I have. I hope you stay safe and well.
 

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Hope you guys hold up all right, looks to be quite the spew. Mother Nature is really edgy lately. :cry:
 

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No more then normal. Its just with modern communications we know more about whats going on. Problem is that Iceland is part of the mid atlantic ridge and therefore could continue erupting for mounths or even years like hawaii does:thumbsdown:
 
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Mother Nature is really edgy lately. :cry:

No kidding-- there have been so many natural disasters strung together over the past six months, clustered one after the others. It's truly bizarre and more than a little intimidating. Finding out this volcano in Iceland erupted (again) and caused all this to happen had a sort of "now what?" feeling about it. Knowing that there are people the world over stranded in airports because of a massive plume of volcanic ash is seriously depressing-- waiting in lines forever is my personal vision of hell....

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Yeah, people were angry over flights being delaied or cancelled. But honestly: I would rather be stranded on the ground than being in an aircraft that is forced to crashland due to engine malfunctions.

In our society people rather rant than think about the reasons.
The Volcanic ash is sucked into the fans of the jet engines and seals the very small wholes that are used for cooling the engine. Outcome: the engine overheats and malfunctions. Happened on Juli 24, 1982 with a Boeing 747. Thankfully the plane could do a controlled touch down.

Most of the people sitting on the airports in Germany are people who are waiting for flights going to other destinations in-country.
I don't know, I really like flying, but within Germany I travel by train. (I am 1,90 meters tall, how should I fit in an "ecenomy class" seat?)


Other than the really important business guys who cannot get to their really important business meetings in time, it has not affected us that much.
You can't see the stars as clearly as before, though (even in Berlin).


Low-level flights (like Police, Rescue and Army helicopters) don't seem to be affected. A formation of three heavy helicopters of the Federal Police just flew over my house.


@ Starfleetkid: Yeah, Earth was hit by a number of natural events lately. Do you know this feeling, that everything is soo far away... until it hits you right in the face....
 
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This looks like it will continue for quite a while longer yet. At a certain point, I am thinking there could be health issues for people with respiratory ailments or conditions. As to flying hither and yon, one of the things I miss about Europe is the train system. The seats are more comfortable. And larger. The food is better. And the scenery is very pleasant.

"Ride the train. Ride the train.
Everywhere I'm goin' I ride trains.
Sleepin' in a boxcar when it rains.
Ride the train. Ride the train."
 

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funny thing is, that ive seen a passanger plane (A330) flying...
maybe there where no passangers onboard.

btw great picture, i havent seen any ash clouds yet
 

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This looks to be a very serious event for all of Europe. I have been following it via the BBC News feed I have. I hope you stay safe and well.

Thanks, I will. And yes, I follow this as well on several news channels. :)

Hope you guys hold up all right, looks to be quite the spew. Mother Nature is really edgy lately. :cry:

Yes, we do held up all right. I noticed a slight eye irritation this night, but nothing else so far.

No more then normal. Its just with modern communications we know more about whats going on. Problem is that Iceland is part of the mid atlantic ridge and therefore could continue erupting for mounths or even years like hawaii does:thumbsdown:

So true, last time this volcano went through a cycle of eruptions, it lasted for 18 months. :eek:

No kidding-- there have been so many natural disasters strung together over the past six months, clustered one after the others. It's truly bizarre and more than a little intimidating. Finding out this volcano in Iceland erupted (again) and caused all this to happen had a sort of "now what?" feeling about it. Knowing that there are people the world over stranded in airports because of a massive plume of volcanic ash is seriously depressing-- waiting in lines forever is my personal vision of hell....

:D

Yes, people are stranded. On the news today I even found out that president Obama can't get to the funeral in Poland due to the ash cloud which now is spreading out over the entire Europe.
And our prime minister can't get home to Norway for the same thing. Not to talk about that John Cleese is stranded in Norway. Just to mention three people that is stranded. Of course many others is as well, and now several are either taking buses, trains or boats to get to their location. Or, like in one case, take the cab instead of plane.

Yeah, people were angry over flights being delaied or cancelled. But honestly: I would rather be stranded on the ground than being in an aircraft that is forced to crashland due to engine malfunctions.

In our society people rather rant than think about the reasons.
The Volcanic ash is sucked into the fans of the jet engines and seals the very small wholes that are used for cooling the engine. Outcome: the engine overheats and malfunctions. Happened on Juli 24, 1982 with a Boeing 747. Thankfully the plane could do a controlled touch down.

Most of the people sitting on the airports in Germany are people who are waiting for flights going to other destinations in-country.
I don't know, I really like flying, but within Germany I travel by train. (I am 1,90 meters tall, how should I fit in an "ecenomy class" seat?)


Other than the really important business guys who cannot get to their really important business meetings in time, it has not affected us that much.
You can't see the stars as clearly as before, though (even in Berlin).


Low-level flights (like Police, Rescue and Army helicopters) don't seem to be affected. A formation of three heavy helicopters of the Federal Police just flew over my house.


@ Starfleetkid: Yeah, Earth was hit by a number of natural events lately. Do you know this feeling, that everything is soo far away... until it hits you right in the face....

Indeed, I would rather be stranded on the ground than in a plane under this circumstances. And I do know about the incident back in 1982 you talk about. It was shown in one of the episodes in "Air Crash Investigation", and I'm happy it all went well there. Before that time people didn't knew ash clouds were dangerous for planes, but that incident told them otherwise.

Oh, and in Northern parts of Norway and Sweden, limited air traffic is being done now.

And yes, I know the feeling of that everything is so far away, until it hits you in the face.

This looks like it will continue for quite a while longer yet. At a certain point, I am thinking there could be health issues for people with respiratory ailments or conditions. As to flying hither and yon, one of the things I miss about Europe is the train system. The seats are more comfortable. And larger. The food is better. And the scenery is very pleasant.

"Ride the train. Ride the train.
Everywhere I'm goin' I ride trains.
Sleepin' in a boxcar when it rains.
Ride the train. Ride the train."

True, the scientists believes this can continue for quite some time due to past history of that volcano. But their biggest fear, outside of that the volcano will trigger a lahar (volcanic flood), is that it can trigger a larger eruption from the much larger volcano Katla. In the past the eruptions of this volcano has indeed been followed up by an eruption from Katla.
Eyjafjallajokull is a relatively small volcano, unlike Katla, which is the largest volcano on Iceland. And Katla is already long overdue for the next eruption, an eruption the scientists fear will be ten times larger than the one from Eyjafjallajokull.

funny thing is, that ive seen a passanger plane (A330) flying...
maybe there where no passangers onboard.

btw great picture, i havent seen any ash clouds yet

Maybe the air space you live in has been cleared, not sure though. Thanks about the picture, by the way. :) I may come with more pictures later, depends on the situation.

And yes; WHO states the volcanic ash can be a serious hazard to the health, and they encourage everyone to stay indoor should it start raining ash.

In VG (a Norwegian newspaper) it also says that a new ash cloud would soon reach Norway, and that ash cloud will be bigger and darker. The prognosis states that it will happen on Monday. And they say that the Southern parts of Norway will take the brunt of it. Interesting, as it's in the Southern parts of Norway I live. :shock: But it all depends on the weather conditions the next few days if that cloud would affect Norway like that.
 

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There actually hasn't been an above average amount of high-power quakes this year so far; they've just not been hitting the middle of nowhere, which is their usual target. There are about 120 quakes per year in the 6.0-6.9 range. The ground swallowing a car in California does seem rather odd though...

The west coast of the US doesn't seem to be affected by the eruption, not yet at least. The ash is moving more eastward than westward so we might not see anything.
 

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Ok, I have now new pictures. I saw on the web the situation of the ash cloud, and that confirmed that the streaks of clouds I right now see outdoor is in fact the outer rim of the ash cloud. And thus I also do believe the first picture has to be that as well.

Here is the four pictures I took of the ash cloud just minutes ago:

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I am sorry to hear about this. I know it must be horrible to have to deal with the effects this can have on normal everyday life.

On the subject of eruptions: This is just one of several that happen. As mentioned, this is from a "small" volcano. I hate to think what life would be like if one of those really big ones blow. When Mt. Helens erupted back in the 1980's, it changed Modern mankind's view of how massive an eruption can be and it's effects on life. This is only the tip of the "iceberg" compared to those eruptions of the likes of supervolcanoes (Yellowstone, Valles Caldera, Lake Toba, Taupo Volcano, etc). When one of those bad boys blow, they typically spew 100 cubic Km of material and can cause a global weather change. All I can say is I hope there is none of those blow anytime soon.
 

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Maybe the air space you live in has been cleared, not sure though.
no it hasnt lol, thats the strange thing.
Havent seen any more air planes though

Ok, I have now new pictures. I saw on the web the situation of the ash cloud, and that confirmed that the streaks of clouds I right now see outdoor is in fact the outer rim of the ash cloud. And thus I also do believe the first picture has to be that as well.

Here is the four pictures I took of the ash cloud just minutes ago:
wow the second one looks really really nice. thanks just for that
 

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Why is it that the more dangerous things in nature are beautiful?:confused:
 

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I am sorry to hear about this. I know it must be horrible to have to deal with the effects this can have on normal everyday life.

On the subject of eruptions: This is just one of several that happen. As mentioned, this is from a "small" volcano. I hate to think what life would be like if one of those really big ones blow. When Mt. Helens erupted back in the 1980's, it changed Modern mankind's view of how massive an eruption can be and it's effects on life. This is only the tip of the "iceberg" compared to those eruptions of the likes of supervolcanoes (Yellowstone, Valles Caldera, Lake Toba, Taupo Volcano, etc). When one of those bad boys blow, they typically spew 100 cubic Km of material and can cause a global weather change. All I can say is I hope there is none of those blow anytime soon.

Yeah, it's a good thing this volcano is just a "small" one. And like I said, hopefully the much bigger one, Katla, won't erupt as well. Though the scientists believes it will, only time will tell.

no it hasnt lol, thats the strange thing.
Havent seen any more air planes though


wow the second one looks really really nice. thanks just for that

Just saw on the news that some planes has been in the air from Frankfurt. They were doing some test flights to asses the situation. Perhaps that was the type of plane you saw.

Oh, and about the pictures; The four last ones were taken during sunrise, and the second one also shows the sun.

Why is it that the more dangerous things in nature are beautiful?:confused:

That is a good question.
 

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It will take a couple of weeks for the ash to circumnavigate the globe and hopefully by then it will have thined enough to not be a signifacant problem over here.
 

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While it is not a complete burden for the Americas, it does have an impact unseen. Commerce. Economic progress is driven by it and with a large section of the European airspace closed to civilian traffic, it will have a very bad impact. Already the airline companies are losing $200 million USD per day. That affects all countries that have trade and tourism relations with affected countries.

While it seems trivial to some, even the President of the USA will not travel through such a risky situation to attend a diplomatic meeting (and the polish funeral).

And even though the Airline companies are upset and suffering excessive loses, I hope they realize people's safety in more important and do not take back to the skies until this volcano is calmed back down.
 

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The biggest issue I have with this bl**dy dust cloud is that its lowering the outside temperature!

Making my cycle to work in the mornings extra chilly...:thumbsdown:
 

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While it is not a complete burden for the Americas, it does have an impact unseen. Commerce. Economic progress is driven by it and with a large section of the European airspace closed to civilian traffic, it will have a very bad impact. Already the airline companies are losing $200 million USD per day. That affects all countries that have trade and tourism relations with affected countries.

While it seems trivial to some, even the President of the USA will not travel through such a risky situation to attend a diplomatic meeting (and the polish funeral).

And even though the Airline companies are upset and suffering excessive loses, I hope they realize people's safety in more important and do not take back to the skies until this volcano is calmed back down.

I've heard on the news that they have opened the airports again several places, including Norway. But the traffic is restricted. Hopefully nothing bad will happen.
Now the biggest ash cloud produced in this event from the volcano as of yet has reached Norway, the situation is uncertain.

The biggest issue I have with this bl**dy dust cloud is that its lowering the outside temperature!

Making my cycle to work in the mornings extra chilly...:thumbsdown:

Yes, it has been slightly colder now. I have noticed it myself.

Now on to more news about the ash cloud.
According to a meteorologist, Norway will be one of the countries that are most affected by this ash cloud due to it's towards Norway the winds from Iceland mostly blows.
The airspace over Norway may be completely closed again from midnight as the eruptions from the volcano is increasing.
If the eruptions continues, the views for Norway is difficult to say, as the particles could hang in the air for 10-12 days if not more.
The ash cloud has reached Turkey now, and I can hear on the news that countries all over the world is affected either by that their goods or people can't get to Europe, or from Europe.

The restrictions of air space is said on the news to be bigger than 9/11 as well.
 

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It is. We only grounded planes for 2 or 3 days. The worst case here is that this could last for years. but if it does I'd look for other longterm effects. An eruption of this type that last that long would lower world tempature for some period of time and if it get bad enough could actuall trigger a mini iceage for a decade or 2. Also I would look for more Hurricanes and Typhoons as the dust alows for greater cloud formation. Also areas closer to the volcano would begin to experiance consintrated acid rain at times. These are however worst case conditions based on long tearm continued powerful eruptions from this or any Volcano of this type.
 

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It is. We only grounded planes for 2 or 3 days. The worst case here is that this could last for years. but if it does I'd look for other longterm effects. An eruption of this type that last that long would lower world tempature for some period of time and if it get bad enough could actuall trigger a mini iceage for a decade or 2. Also I would look for more Hurricanes and Typhoons as the dust alows for greater cloud formation. Also areas closer to the volcano would begin to experiance consintrated acid rain at times. These are however worst case conditions based on long tearm continued powerful eruptions from this or any Volcano of this type.

Yeah, let's hope the worst case scenarios don't happen.

Now to some more stuff about the air traffic;

Just found out that several more test flights has been done, and the airlines says the restrictions are too strict due to that they didn't had any incident. But a close up of one of the test flights, a Finnish one, shows melted volcanic ash had been built up in their engines during the test flight. So I guess those pilots were extremely lucky of not coming crashing down.

Edit: Another update; The ash cloud has now reached Canada and is disturbing air traffic there as well. Also, there is speculations now if the eruption is easing or not due to lower ash cloud. Some say the volcano has started to spew lava, while others say it's just the winds that makes the ash cloud go lower.
 
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Let's just hope this ends soon... Atleast by 2012, with no major "bigger" eruptions from the bigger volcano or fissures or anything.

I hate to speculate, but it seems the earth is getting more active with tectonic and volcanic activities... Or at least more activity in or near populated areas.
 

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Let's just hope this ends soon... Atleast by 2012, with no major "bigger" eruptions from the bigger volcano or fissures or anything.

I hate to speculate, but it seems the earth is getting more active with tectonic and volcanic activities... Or at least more activity in or near populated areas.

So true, it is more activity now near populated areas than it has been for a while.

By the way, an update on the ash cloud; Now I can see parts of it again as it shrouds the moon. Holding camera still while taking night shots isn't easy, but here is the best pic I have of how the moon is shrouded. The camera is also on maximum zoom:

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WOW. :shock: Now THAT'S really dark.

Yes, though it's not that easy shown on the pic, the moon is actually shrouded in yellow and orange colors and somewhat dim. And by the way, I can't see the moon at all now, even though I saw it just a few minutes ago. I can see at least one star, though, but it's flickering.
Tried to take a picture of it, but it won't show at all.
 

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What are those lights near the bottom of the pic?
 

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Yeesh... personally, I'd be terrified if that giant cloud was hanging over my area. Seriously hope you and there rest of the world over there gets through this okay
 

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I have new pictures to show, as well as an update on the ash cloud.

It has been confirmed that the volcano has moved over to spew out lava fountains and thus lesser ash are coming out. But the eruptions can still last for months to come.
Katla so far shows no signs of waking up, but the scientists keeps an eye on that volcano as well as the situation is uncertain.

It has also been confirmed that several planes has gotten severe damages to their engines after cruising over Europe the last days. The planes, which was fighters, landed safely, but need costly repairs to their engines before they can fly again due to lots of volcanic glass in said engines. This is in contrast to what airlines are reporting about their test flights.

I see in the newspapers that even though less ash is coming out, the ash cloud that has come out will still hang over large parts of Europe for several days, and on Thursday it seems it will cover the entire Norway and it's a danger for ash rain in the parts of Norway I live in that day.

Now to the pictures. I took those pictures early this morning, and even though the ash cloud is not that visible, I knew it was there due to that it was a strong stench of sulfur in the air and the eyes got irritated again.
The first two pictures shows to that the sunrise is somewhat red due to the ash. The two last shows to an optic phenomena around the sun that not necessary is caused by ash clouds, but this time I believe it was the ash that caused it.

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The eruption is far from over according to what I have found out. The volcano has gone over to spewing out massive amount of ash again, but this time the ash cloud is moving in south direction and so far only affects Great Britain outside of Iceland.
The ash cloud is also smaller than how it was in April.

Looks like I have to continue to keep an eye on the situation.

PS.: The air here now is rather clear and the temperature is about back to normal, so the affects from April is about gone from here.
 
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