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I Was Thinking

what to call the NEW RPG

  • Star Trek : Ashes of a lost peace

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  • Star trek : Disillusion

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  • Star trek : Discord

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  • Other

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Hellkite

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I was thinking

**Preemptive: Yes I know this is dangerous Thunderfoot ;) **

Back to the point

What I have been thinking of a new Rpg on based on a Fighter squadron set in the Star trek Universe post 30 so years post Nemesis aboard a/ an Seraphim Class carrier as a Federation Civil war brakes out.

How will this be different from Midway ? All player will be Pilots or deck crew "So no fleet personal will be all Npc " and the Rpg will be based on the flight deck

Thinking of calling it Star Trek : A Tattered Banner


thoughts ???
 
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I was thinking

preemptive: Yes I know this is dangerous Thunderfoot ;)
One of my favorite lines from the Bob and Tom Show comes to mind here. "Sometimes, the jokes write themselves."

Back to the point

What I have been thinking of a new Rpg on based on a Fighter squadron set in the Star trek Universe post 30 so years post Nemesis aboard a/ an Seraphim Class carrier as a Federation Civil war brakes out.

How will this be different from Midway ? All player will be Pilots or deck crew "So no fleet personal will be all Npc " and the Rpg will be based on the flight deck

Thinking of calling it Star Trek : A Tattered Banner


thoughts ???
I think it is a great idea. I would like to participate if you'd let me. The proposed name is good but maybe it ought to be a little more, ahem... fighter piloty, lol. Or, since you are describing a Fed civil war, something which reflects the discord and anguish such things are always accompanied by.
 

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Star Trek : A Tattered Banner

Star Trek : Fractured Frontiers

Star Trek : of Wounded Wings

Star Trek : Ashes of a lost peace

Star trek : Sunder

Star trek : Disillusion

Star trek : Discord


Thunder yous all ways welcome as are the rest of the site in this :D
 

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Sounds like a good idea. And I like the title of Star Trek: Of Wounded Wings. Fits with the idea of fighters methinks.
 

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I'm kind of fond in truth of Star Trek: Of Wounded Wings

What to the rest of you think ???
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I'd love to take part in this! I have no knowledge about fighter things though, that might possibly require some researchingz on my part... :sweat:
It will be needing more than just pilots

non pilot rolls

Maintaince Officer of Squadron Deck / hanger boss

Flight surgeon

AEW&C / Carrier Command Information Centers (CICs) officer





Hmmm.... I can imagine it now

Star Trek: Crash of Ascension

Plot:
The Federation has over-expanded throughout the beta and Alpha Quadrants. The Romulans and Cardassians now being the newest members of the Federation. However being so busy with border-line issues and conflicts with Rogue Dominion and Breen forces. The Reman/Sona alliance sneaked into the heart of the Federation and destroyed Earth and poisoned Vulcan, Andoria, and Betazed with Thelaron radiation making the planets indefinitely uninhabitable.

Civil unrest has shaken the foundation of the Federation. Panic sets in as they try to resettle members of the now "homeless" races of the Federation with new home worlds. Eventually the Federation collapses into several divisions. Humans, Andorians, Vulcans, Betazed, and Trill being grouped as "Wanderers"; The Romulans, Klingons, and Cardassians seperate themselves taking more territory from the Federation than ever before. And the Wanderers now fight to survive as the other races group together to slaughter the weakened races seeing them as cursed with weakness.

The Cardassians and Klingons are at war. The Romulans and the Breen are at war. And all the while, the Borg are waiting for the right moment to assimilate the Alpha Quadrant.


"The Federation has over-expanded throughout the beta and Alpha Quadrants. " That part of it you got right , but the rest you just wait and see... I'm still working on the outline :)
 
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Commander of the air group (known as the "CAG") Hellkite rank COL

Executive officer (XO) Thunderfoot Lt Col

Note: A flight It usually comprises three to six aircraft

alpha flight commander { to be filled } rank Capt.

Bravo flight commander { to be filled } rank Capt.

Charlie flight commander { to be filled } rank Capt.

Delta flight commander { to be filled } rank Capt.

Flight surgeon / CMO { to be filled } rank Maj.

flight chief, / hanger boss { to be filled } rank Senior master sergeant.
 

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As to what will be flying in this rpg

Aeon Class fighter
aeon_class_starfighter_by_jetfreak74656-d4v5xiz.png


*Img masterfully done by Jetfreak:thumbsup:
 

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Commander of the air group (known as the "CAG") Hellkite rank COL

Executive officer (XO) Thunderfoot Lt Col

Note: A flight It usually comprises three to six aircraft

alpha flight commander { to be filled } rank Capt.

Bravo flight commander { to be filled } rank Capt.

Charlie flight commander { to be filled } rank Capt.

Delta flight commander { to be filled } rank Capt.

Flight surgeon / CMO { to be filled } rank Maj.

flight chief, / hanger boss { to be filled } rank Senior master sergeant.

Hmmm...... if I am to be Delta Commander... can I request specs of fighters in my fighter group?
 

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Aeonlayout1.png

Key :
micro photon torpedo launcher
pulse phaser cannons


Speed
Cruising Velocity: Warp 8
Maximum Velocity: Warp 9
Emergency Velocity: Warp 9.8 (for 1.2 hours)

Dimensions
Length: 18.15 metres
Width: 12.06 metres
Height: 4.89 metres
Decks: 1

Weapon Systems:
Phaser Systems:
4 Compact pulse phaser cannons. (Wing mounted)
4 Point Defense Phaser Arrays.
Torpedo Arrangement:
1 Mini-Torpedo " burst "Launchers.
70 Micro-Quantum Torpedoes

Defensive Systems: Ablative Armour and Skin and bubble Shielding System

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Commander of the air group (known as the "CAG") Hellkite rank COL

Executive officer (XO) Thunderfoot Lt Col

Note: A flight It usually comprises three to six aircraft

alpha flight commander { to be filled } rank Capt.

Bravo flight commander { to be filled } rank Capt.

Charlie flight commander { to be filled } rank Capt.

Delta flight commander { USS_Excalibur } rank Capt.

Flight surgeon / CMO { to be filled } rank Maj.

flight chief, / hanger boss { to be filled } rank Senior master sergeant.
 

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HK, need an AWAC person? :yup:
 

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As to what will be flying in this rpg

Aeon Class fighter
aeon_class_starfighter_by_jetfreak74656-d4v5xiz.png


*Img masterfully done by Jetfreak:thumbsup:

:shock:.... wow... The model does it no justice now.:Y If he could do the rest of the views like that I might be tempted to overhaul the model.:angel:
 

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Commander of the air group (known as the "CAG") Hellkite rank COL

Executive officer (XO) Thunderfoot Lt Col

Note: A flight It usually comprises three to six aircraft

alpha flight commander { to be filled } rank Capt.

Bravo flight commander { to be filled } rank Capt.

Charlie flight commander { to be filled } rank Capt.

Delta flight commander { USS_Excalibur } rank Capt.

Flight surgeon / CMO { to be filled } rank Maj.

flight chief, / hanger boss { to be filled } rank Senior master sergeant.

AEW&C / Carrier Command Information Centers (CICs) officer { Terra_Inc} rank 1st Lt Callsine "Whiskers"

:shock:.... wow... The model does it no justice now.:Y If he could do the rest of the views like that I might be tempted to overhaul the model.:angel:

"tempted " LOL more like :drool: <hand Z a dry towel >

That would be between you and Jet

But for the record I'd be all for it :D
 

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Speed
Cruising Velocity: Warp 8
Maximum Velocity: Warp 9
Emergency Velocity: Warp 9.8 (for 1.2 hours)

Dimensions
Length: 18.15 metres
Width: 12.06 metres
Height: 4.89 metres
Decks: 1

Weapon Systems:
Phaser Systems:
4 Compact pulse phaser cannons. (Wing mounted)
4 Point Defense Phaser Arrays.
Torpedo Arrangement:
1 Mini-Torpedo " burst "Launchers.
70 Micro-Quantum Torpedoes

Defensive Systems: Ablative Armour and Skin and bubble Shielding System

Delta Fleet Modified Specs:
Deflector System: Tachyon Deflector Array
Defensive Systems: Neutronium Alloy Armor and Geometric Metaphasic Shields (Geometric means it conforms to the shape of the ship)

Weapon Systems:
4 Wing Mounted Compact Plasma Disruptor Cannons
2 Hull Mounted Gravimetric Torpedo Emitters (Federation adapted replicas of Borg launchers scaled down; Emitters means that its completely energy and indefinite amount of torpedoes saving the torpedo bay room for additional shield generators)
1 Hull Mounted Aft Phaser Beam Bank
 

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Delta Fleet Modified Specs:
Deflector System: Tachyon Deflector Array
Defensive Systems: Neutronium Alloy Armor and Geometric Metaphasic Shields (Geometric means it conforms to the shape of the ship)

Weapon Systems:
4 Wing Mounted Compact Plasma Disruptor Cannons
2 Hull Mounted Gravimetric Torpedo Emitters (Federation adapted replicas of Borg launchers scaled down; Emitters means that its completely energy and indefinite amount of torpedoes saving the torpedo bay room for additional shield generators)
1 Hull Mounted Aft Phaser Beam Bank


the
Deflector System: Tachyon Deflector Array
Defensive Systems: Neutronium Alloy Armor and Geometric Metaphasic Shields (Geometric means it conforms to the shape of the ship)

I 'm ok with

But the weapon mods that your are talking about will not work they need to be Federation stander that and the fighter as a limited to the amount of power it can supply

But the fighter will have different load outs just like in real life Example the

torpedo list

Micro-Torpedoes

Due to the size of fighters, they are too small to carry full-scale torpedoes. So back in the early 24th century when fighters came into production, Starfleet engineering and Starfleet tactical worked together for a substitution.

The result was the Micro Photon Torpedo. Since them Starfleet has produced Micro-Quantum’s and the new experimental Micro-Plasma torpedoes.

Micro-Photons
microptopedo.jpg

First designed in the early 2300's, the Micro-Photon has changed in recent years to be more powerful and now has a greater yield.
Yield = 15 Iso Tons

Micro-Quantums
microqtopedo.jpg

Not long after the introduction of the Quantum torpedo, Starfleet designed and produced a Micro version to be fitted on fighters and assault runabouts.
Yield = 28 Iso Tons

Micro-Plasmas
microplasma.jpg

After the peace treaty between the Romulan Star Empire and the Federation, Starfleet Engineering and the Romulan Science Academy started working on co-ventures together. One of these ventures was the creation of the Starfleet Plasma torpedo. Based on Starfleet Photon and Romulan Plasma technology, the Plasma Torpedo has the power of over twice that of a Quantum torpedo. The Micro version has slightly more power than a ship sized Quantum torpedo. Due to the power, these torpedoes are only fitted to fighters that are undertaking special missions.
 
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Deflector System: Tachyon Deflector Array
Defensive Systems: Neutronium Alloy Armor and Geometric Metaphasic Shields (Geometric means it conforms to the shape of the ship)

I 'm ok with

But the weapon mods that your are talking about will not work they need to be Federation stander that and the fighter as a limited to the amount of power it can supply

But the fighter will have different load outs just like in real life Example the

torpedo list

Micro-Torpedoes

Due to the size of fighters, they are too small to carry full-scale torpedoes. So back in the early 24th century when fighters came into production, Starfleet engineering and Starfleet tactical worked together for a substitution.

The result was the Micro Photon Torpedo. Since them Starfleet has produced Micro-Quantum’s and the new experimental Micro-Plasma torpedoes.

Micro-Photons
microptopedo.jpg

First designed in the early 2300's, the Micro-Photon has changed in recent years to be more powerful and now has a greater yield.
Yield = 15 Iso Tons

Micro-Quantums
microqtopedo.jpg

Not long after the introduction of the Quantum torpedo, Starfleet designed and produced a Micro version to be fitted on fighters and assault runabouts.
Yield = 28 Iso Tons

Micro-Plasmas
microplasma.jpg

After the peace treaty between the Romulan Star Empire and the Federation, Starfleet Engineering and the Romulan Science Academy started working on co-ventures together. One of these ventures was the creation of the Starfleet Plasma torpedo. Based on Starfleet Photon and Romulan Plasma technology, the Plasma Torpedo has the power of over twice that of a Quantum torpedo. The Micro version has slightly more power than a ship sized Quantum torpedo. Due to the power, these torpedoes are only fitted to fighters that are undertaking special missions.

I am well aware of it. And as a downside, the ships are more sluggish because of the heavier alloy. And also Cruising warp is down to 8.8; Max is 9.1; and Emergency is 9.5 for 1 hour. I also was thinking of having it that because of the large energy turnover the EPS conduits to the weapon systems have a higher "burnout rate" and they need to be replaced more frequently.

Disruptors are likely to be borrowed from the Romulans under the same treaty as the Plasma torpedo trade. While damage is higher, hit chance is lower and range is shorter. The Gravimetric torpedoes would consume so much energy that it would have a 90 second cooldown and there is a 3 second locking process making them rather useless against fast and small craft.

These would be sort of like bombers, heavy hits but they would have significant downsides.
 

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From a PM to USS_Excalibur just to keep everyone in the loop

As I posted were be going with standard weapon load outs when it comes to weapons, with that said latter down the line when our supply chain is cut off we will see about going to more exotic load outs but at the start let keep to the basic.


USS_Excalibur if you want I can give you a bomber flight we can do that

You would be flying a
Translightning Long Range Starfighter XF-38
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she is a Strike Fighter craft​
 
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USS_Excalibur if you want I can give you a bomber flight we can do that

You would be flying a
Translightning Long Range Starfighter XF-38
translightning_long_range_starfighter_xf_38_by_midway_hellkite-d4r9qiz.png


she is a Strike Fighter craft​

W007! That is nice! I'd like to have that for Armada II as well. ^^
 

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So we have a deal then your Flying one of the Translightning Long Range Starfighter XF-38 then
Front view
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But back to topic

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Commander of the air group (known as the "CAG") Hellkite rank COL

Executive officer (XO) Thunderfoot Lt Col

Note: A flight It usually comprises three to six aircraft

alpha flight commander { to be filled } rank Capt.

Bravo flight commander { to be filled } rank Capt.

Charlie flight commander { to be filled } rank Capt.

Delta flight commander { USS_Excalibur } rank Capt.

Flight surgeon / CMO { to be filled } rank Maj.

AEW&C / Carrier Command Information Centers (CICs) officer { Terra_Inc} rank 1st Lt Callsine "Whiskers"

flight chief, / hanger boss { to be filled } rank Senior master sergeant.
 

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I was wondering if I could play not a flight command but only a pilot in a wing first. I'm portraying myself as a youngster pilot :)
By the way, will the game a bit similar to BSG? With the title of "Wanderers" and a few races who are hunting us, it's really feels like a Battlestar Trek. Which is fine, I'm just searching the general feeling of the game.
 

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I can sum up the Feeling to this game as... In the end it's all about what you stand for and what you will fight for when the world falls around you. should be fun :)

K_merse and yes you can be a fresh out of flight school if you wait :)

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Stander Enlisted and (NON) Flight officers Duty uniform for deck crew
 

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I was thinking of having a character of this species that I'd play as. (Unnamed species of course)

He would be one of the pilots who does the rather unorthodox actions of the flight. And rarely comes back home without battle damage on his ship.
 

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I have also been invited and it is not much of a surprise, what my new job will be. :)
 

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Commander of the air group (known as the "CAG") Hellkite rank COL

Executive officer (XO) Thunderfoot Lt Col

Note: A flight It usually comprises three to six aircraft

alpha flight commander { to be filled } rank Capt.

Bravo flight commander { to be filled } rank Capt.

Charlie flight commander { to be filled } rank Capt.

Delta flight commander { USS_Excalibur } rank Capt.

Flight surgeon / CMO { EAS_Intrepid} rank Maj.

AEW&C / Carrier Command Information Centers (CICs) officer { Terra_Inc} rank 1st Lt Callsine "Whiskers"

flight chief, / hanger boss { to be filled } rank Senior master sergeant.[/QUOTE]
 

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It appears that I too have been drafted.:)

I will serve where I am needed.:salute:
 

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I wanted to wait till every wing has a commander, but it seems that it won't happen :( So I'd like to join to Charlie Flight as a newbie pilot.
 

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Commander of the air group (known as the "CAG") Hellkite rank COL

Executive officer (XO) Thunderfoot Lt Col

Note: A flight It usually comprises three to six aircraft

alpha flight commander { to be filled } rank Capt.

Bravo flight commander { to be filled } rank Capt.

Charlie flight commander { Adm_Z } rank Capt.

Charlie fighter pilot {K_merse} rank 1st Lt

Delta flight commander { USS_Excalibur } rank Capt.

Flight surgeon / CMO { EAS_Intrepid} rank Maj. Callsine "Doc"

AEW&C / Carrier Command Information Centers (CICs) officer { Terra_Inc} rank 1st Lt Callsine "Whiskers"

flight chief, / hanger boss { to be filled } rank Senior master sergeant.


I wanted to wait till every wing has a commander, but it seems that it won't happen :( So I'd like to join to Charlie Flight as a newbie pilot.

No worries the list is expandable K_merse your new flight commander is Adm_Z :)


I have a small bit of home work for you


For all rpg member you need to come up with callsines for yourself

Normally the Squadron Commander Issues them out but I'm interested to see what you all come up with for yourself
 
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Commander of the air group (known as the "CAG") Hellkite rank COL Callsign: Reaper

Executive officer (XO) Thunderfoot Lt Col Callsign:confused:abot

Note: A flight It usually comprises three to six aircraft

alpha flight commander { to be filled } rank Capt.

Bravo flight commander { to be filled } rank Capt.

Charlie flight commander { Adm_Z } rank Capt.

Charlie fighter pilot {K_merse} rank 1st Lt

Delta flight commander { USS_Excalibur } rank Capt.

Flight surgeon / CMO { EAS_Intrepid} rank Maj. Callsine: "Doc"

AEW&C / Carrier Command Information Centers (CICs) officer { Terra_Inc} rank 1st Lt Callsine: "Whiskers"

flight chief, / hanger boss { to be filled } rank Senior master sergeant.
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Nice idea, Count me in as a Pilot (Callsign: Claymore) plz :angel:

Sounds like a blast....with afew more after it
 
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