[Help] Hardpoint/Hierarchy Problem on MS3D - Weapons Not Working

[Admiral*Alex]

I managed to re-reconvert the Britain Class into Armada 2 and is now buildable. However, it can't shoot (the next most important thing). I'm assuming it's a Hierarchy problem, but I'm not sure. While I'm obviously new to Armada 2, I have some (very) limited - coding - experience modding another game of mine. I don't have any experience with making units and rigging (adding hardpoints things) them.


How can I tell if it is a Hierarchy problem?


PS: Last time it was literally one letter that was causing my problems as I can't read apparently after an eight-hour shift on little sleep. I'm sort of hoping it isn't like that again. That was too painful to find.

PPS: As I see this as a separate problem (as it could plague any ship, not just converted ones) I made a new topic.

 

[SciFiFan]

Can you post a pic of your HP Hierarchy and ODF file? It could also be an issue with the ODF having the wrong HP listed for the weapons.

 

[Admiral*Alex]

I'll have to upload a few as I couldn't get all the hardpoints in one image, but of course.

(Edit) Or not, maybe?
(Edit #2) Success.

 

[kjc733]

Looking at the lower left image it appears that all your hardpoints are daisy chained. i.e. they are a child of the preceding "h_hp" point. Each "h_hp" hardpoint needs to be a child of the "h_hardpoints" hardpoint.

 

[SciFiFan]

Also, in your ODF, you have your weapon hardpoints listed at "HP01" "HP02" etc. while in your model you have them listed as "hp1" hp2" etc.

 

[Admiral*Alex]

Also, in your ODF, you have your weapon hardpoints listed at "HP01" "HP02" etc. while in your model you have them listed as "hp1" hp2" etc.

Ah, that might be the problem. I guess I never saved the MS3d when I updated it to fix that issue. That's a simple solution (again).

 

[Admiral*Alex]

Looking at the lower left image it appears that all your hardpoints are daisy chained. i.e. they are a child of the preceding "h_hp" point. Each "h_hp" hardpoint needs to be a child of the "h_hardpoints" hardpoint.

So in other words, h_hp4's parent node/joint (I'm still learning the lingo) isn't h_hardpoints, but h_hp3?

 

[SciFiFan]

When you apply the nodes for the hp, you need to make certain to re-select the parent node before adding the next child node.

 

[Admiral*Alex]

So in other words, I do in fact have h_hp3 connected to h_hp4 instead of h_hardpoints.

Great....oh well. Back to work. At least now I have a working back up.

 

[SciFiFan]

At least your error just keeps the weapons from firing. I made a really simple error and it crashed the game.

 

[Admiral*Alex]

I am both curious and horrified on what the error was. It seems Armada 2 is very forgiving when it comes to mistakes, compared to Command and Conquer Generals (the other game I use to mod).

 

[kjc733]

Usually it is far from forgiving and I'm amazed it worked at all in game.
Make a typo in an odf, usually it's either a crash to desktop or the mission won't load.

 

[Admiral*Alex]

After being delayed by a new job, I finally got a ship firing weapons. Sadly, I had to start over on a new ship as I just couldn't get the Britain Class working. Then I discovered that I (Somehow) referenced an older draft of the Britain Class.

Honestly, it was pretty simple to convert the files (once I got past the bugs).

I feel obliged to share it.