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Filefront Acquired by Break Media

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Thanks to a member of our site here (whom I'll not named unless he wants to) it has come to my attention today that Filefront (including their forums and all sub-sites) have been bought by Break Media.

There seems to be a bit of commotion over there about this move, one that is according to the new article to be beneficial to Filefront but many of it's community think otherwise.

After the Ziff Davis issue back last April, it seems that Filefront could possible be in risk of closure, at least to some of the site gaming sites like A2Files, BCFiles, SFCFiles etc.

Or worse, they could be turned into something like the rest of Break Media's sites, which have questionable taste at best which I'll not link here as it's inappropriate for this family site, however the names of the sites are there so you can google them or just go to a Filefront site and look at the new black bar at top with all the links to them.


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Yes, you did hear that right. FileFront, Gaming Today, the FileFront Forums, and the Network Sites have been acquired by Break Media.

As our very own Jon Soucy said in the press release announcing the sale, "Break Media has a proven track record when it comes to delivering quality content and building communities around that content. We're excited to be joining Break Media, and we�re looking forward to working with them to deliver the very best in gaming coverage to our users."

All of us here at FileFront are excited to become part of the Break Media network of sites, and we look forward to continuing to bring you, our users, the quality game content you expect from FileFront. Stay tuned to Gaming Today for news on how we're working with Break to update the site's design, refocus and expand the site's editorial content, and continue to build out the FileFront community.

The full press release is available after the jump. If you're not familiar with Break, you can check out their community of entertainment sites at the links below.

* Break.com
* Screen Junkies
* Cage Potato
* Chickipedia
* Holy Taco
* Made Man
* All Left Turns


Break Media Expands Further Into Gaming, Acquires FileFront Network

Deal adds the highly trafficked gaming content property to Break Media

LOS ANGELES - Thursday, February 11 - Break Media, the Internet's premier entertainment community for men, today announced the acquisition of FileFront, a large and long-standing property dedicated to providing gaming news, downloads, and more to millions of users every month. Break Media will fold FileFront into its primary group of branded sites and invest significantly in the editorial components of the site, with an aim to provide both Break and FileFront users with additional premium gaming content.

FileFront currently boasts more than 9 million unique monthly visitors, more than 200,000 active forum users, and a network of more than 75 game-specific sites. "Gaming is a significant area of interest to our community and our brand partners," said Keith Richman, CEO of Break Media. "Adding an established property like FileFront will help us cater more effectively to that interest and add immediate scale to our existing gaming efforts."

In the coming months, the Break Media editorial team will work with the FileFront team to update the site's design, refocus and expand the site's editorial content, and continue to build out the FileFront community. The site will join other wholly owned Break Media properties Break.com, CagePotato, MadeMan, Chickipedia, HolyTaco, ScreenJunkies, and AllLeftTurns.

"Break Media has a proven track record when it comes to delivering quality content and building communities around that conent," said Jon Soucy, senior editor at FileFront. "We're excited to be joining Break Media, and we're looking forward to working with them to deliver the very best in gaming coverage to our users."

The incorporation of FileFront into the Break Media network builds on Break's recent expansion into gaming, which kicked off last month with the formation of a game development studio in Shanghai and the launch of that studio's first game, MMA FightPicker, on CagePotato.com. Adding FileFront and its dedicated community to Break will both provide Break's audience with new gaming-oriented editorial content and immediately expand the audience for Break's original games.

FileFront was created by I/O Error Development and first launched in December 2001.

About Break Media:

Break Media is one of the largest entertainment properties and providers of content --
video, editorial, and games -- to men online. The company's branded properties
(Break.com, CagePotato, MadeMan, Chickipedia, HolyTaco, ScreenJunkies, and AllLeftTurns), combined with the publisher sites in the Break Media Network, reach more than 100 million men worldwide on a monthly basis. Break Media is currently the 37th largest web property in the U.S., and it operates the fifth-largest video advertising network in that market. Break Media offers its advertisers a variety of unique marketing opportunities, helping those brands interact with the Break audience on a targeted, integrated basis using innovative ad formats. For more information, please visit Break Media.

If you have comments on this please post them here (also on FF as they need to hear your views), as a fellow A2 and Gaming site we are always interested in the going ons in the gaming community. Also considering we have a high interest in A2 this effects us as well due to the threat this could pose to A2Files.

But rest assured if the worst happens MSFC, is here for the A2 Community and will serve as a life-boat site for A2Files in both file hosting and forum and community survivability.
 

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Yeah, I noticed that break media tool bar on the top of the web pages. I thought it was an add:sweat:
 

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Break Media is one of the largest entertainment properties and providers of content --
video, editorial, and games -- to men online.

Somehow this don't sound good. It sounds like Break Media is very male oriented, and wants Filefront to be the same. This could cause lots of trouble for the female members then male ego trip takes over like this.
 

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thats werd. it certainly seems that way

combined with the publisher sites in the Break Media Network, reach more than 100 million men worldwide on a monthly basis.
 

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I agree, gaming has many many female members these days. In fact I think today about 60-70% of total gamers are males so that 30-40% of female gamers is a huge market that needs to be addressed and catered for.

I don't particularly like the look of Break Media and it will cause issues between MSFC (a family site) and A2Files if they turn Filefront (and it's sub-sites) into some sort of male only non-family, distasteful network.

I however hope this doesn't happen. Filefront has already had it's share of problems these past two years and doesn't need another.

Also reasons I think it could turn into some like this is not just because of there current sites but the comment made by "Mark Burnham, Associate Gaming Editor for Break Media" under the username of "xmadmardiganx" in the thread on filefront's site:

xmadmardiganx said:
Hey everyone!
This is Mark Burnham, Associate Gaming Editor for Break.com.

I just wanted to introduce myself, say what's up. We're really excited to work with everyone and build FF into something bigger and better.

And yes, we're definitely looking at the network sites and thinking of ways to make them prettier, more functional, etc.

More on that stuff as it develops.

Thanks for the warm welcome guys

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xmadmardiganx said:
And yes, we're definitely looking at the network sites and thinking of ways to make them prettier, more functional, etc.

If their current sites are any indication, I don't like the sounds of that at all. I could just be reading into it too much and I hope I am wrong in this instance.

Edit:

Another post by Mark Burnham, this one on the forums.

Mark Burnham said:
Hey all!
This is Mark Burnham, Associate Gaming Editor for Break.com.

I just wanted to introduce myself, and say how excited we are to build FF into something even bigger and better.

Also, let me note that we're definitely giving the network sites a good hard look and thinking of ways to spruce them up. It's still very early, but more on that stuff as it develops.

Thanks for the warm welcome!
 
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That and now they have all our e-mails:shock: jk

It would be a shame if I had to stop going there because stupid users comments were no longer censored, or the adds became intolerable. Simple things like that could really make that site no-longer family friendly and would be a shame for all those how enjoy those games.

It could very easily kill the a2 modding community:(
 

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I myself do infrequently visit Break.com. Yes they are very much on the male oriented side. I will say though that in their gaming section there are some rather good family oriented games that I have loved to play. Some geared around sports and several cerebral games.

I am not neither supporting nor condemning Break Media. I have no idea how this will work out for FF. I do hope it will all be for the better. I just wanted to give another perspective of things.

P.S. With as popular as Armada 2 still is, Break Media would be really idiotic to let it go.
 

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P.S. With as popular as Armada 2 still is, Break Media would be really idiotic to let it go.

You have to look at it from a business view. A2 is a rather ancient game by gaming standards, 10 years old and A1 is even older. One can no longer buy it, it's not open source, and to get one on ebay your easily paying anywhere from $100-$200 dollars. Yes I actually checked yesterday.

It makes more sense for a business to support STO, or some other currently or soon-to-be released game. The A2 Community isn't getting any bigger, as a matter of fact it's getting smaller. If you compare it to what it was 5-7 years ago, it's a 1/3 of what it was.

I hope I am wrong, but looking at it in terms of a business I can't see A2Files being on the top of the keep list. But MSFC is here to assist if the worst comes to be. We'll take in the community, the staff, the mods and the spirit of modding Armada 2 if that's what the community and the A2Files staff wish.

We have the space, and with the help of many the files could be up within a few weeks. It will be a lot of work, but the community can survive if the worst comes to head.
 

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I'm going to quote my own comment on the news thing over there.
What ever is done to the site it should stay family friendly. If this becomes like their other sites, I'm gone. This is a family friendly gaming site, not a "men's entertainment" site.
I hope it stays pretty much the way it is, but I doubt it. As a precaution, I'm going to get what I've put up there and upload it here.
 

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hopefully the A2Files staff will update the backups they made last time. That way they can always take the site elsewhere and use the backup site they made when Ziff closed it all last year. least then everythings safe from Break.
 
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The concern for the A2 community here is wonderful to see, but no specific plans regarding A2Files in particular have been announced. The site traffic specifically for A2Files regularly puts us in the top 25 of FF's sites (according to Alexa.com) so I don't think they're going to close us, or shut down FF generally, for a very long time.

I realize a great many of you are "once bitten twice shy" (hey, so am I), and I'm not a fan of Break.com's other sites, but I have to see the hope in the situation rather than the despair. At the very least, I want to see what they have planned and what they come up with over the next couple months before I pass summary judgment. Considering how much we tolerated under ZDM's regime, the least we can do is give these Break.com folks one chance to prove themselves. Just one chance before we start mass downloading and migrating. Otherwise it's a self-fulfilling prophecy.

I suppose my position as A2Files volunteer staff might jaundice some of you on my opinion. I would feel the way I do regardless. It's the people in this community that make the difference. And one way or another, it'll be the people that determine its destiny. That always makes me a little proud, because I get to be a part of it. I don't care what I'm doing in this community, whether it's as staff at one site or as a member in the other, as long as there's still a community for me to enjoy being a part of, and serving in any way I can.

Who cares who's in charge of the site so long as the reason we visit --the mods and the good stuff-- are still there? FileFront is a means to an end. The A2 community has gotten by without FileFront in the past. It'll endure regardless of FileFront and its status or ownership. One might say we have in past continued to maintain our community in spite of FileFront & its limitations, and if we need to, we'll do it again. This acquisition hasn't changed my world at all. At least, not yet. We'll just have to see where it takes A2Files, and where the community goes from there. :cool:

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To be honest, I'm not worried about A2Files becoming male-oriented or less family-friendly. The Community could still survive it.
What I'm scared of, is the fact that this could really mean the end of the A2 modding community. Yes, read it again: The END. Nothing against MSFC, it's a fine site and many of the finest members of the A2 modding community hang out here. But we're only a few. If A2Files would really be shut down it would be catastrophic. True, we survived the first "shut-down" last year. But A2files was never again like it was before. And I fear that this time we may lose even more.
If this new owner threatens the existence of A2Files, he also threatens the existence of the community. It's not the forums that are so important. It's the main site. A2Files is a place where the modding efforts of a whole decade are at home. And the community is centered around this ever-growing treasure. If we lose it, we lose the work of a decade. A2Files is like a magnet, attracting those who love the game and uniting them in one place. Without A2Files the community would break to pieces.

That is what I'm afraid of. Maybe I'm too skeptical about the new owners, but I want to see the results of this before trusting them.
 

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Well, MSFC was originally just an RPG and scifi site, and added the gaming parts later. And MSFC is an independent site and has always been that. So MSFC will survive this. True, gaming is a big part of MSFC now, but MSFC is more than just gaming.

But if A2 files get more male oriented and less family friendly, A2 files will loose many members.
 

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Well, MSFC was originally just an RPG and scifi site, and added the gaming parts later. And MSFC is an independent site and has always been that. So MSFC will survive this. True, gaming is a big part of MSFC now, but MSFC is more than just gaming.

That is why I think it can not and will not replace A2Files should the site be shut down.
 

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But if A2 files get more male oriented and less family friendly, A2 files will loose many members.

that was my point exactaly.

To be honest, I'm not worried about A2Files becoming male-oriented or less family-friendly. The Community could still survive it.
What I'm scared of, is the fact that this could really mean the end of the A2 modding community. Yes, read it again: The END. Nothing against MSFC, it's a fine site and many of the finest members of the A2 modding community hang out here. But we're only a few. If A2Files would really be shut down it would be catastrophic. True, we survived the first "shut-down" last year. But A2files was never again like it was before. And I fear that this time we may lose even more.
If this new owner threatens the existence of A2Files, he also threatens the existence of the community. It's not the forums that are so important. It's the main site. A2Files is a place where the modding efforts of a whole decade are at home. And the community is centered around this ever-growing treasure. If we lose it, we lose the work of a decade. A2Files is like a magnet, attracting those who love the game and uniting them in one place. Without A2Files the community would break to pieces.

That is what I'm afraid of. Maybe I'm too skeptical about the new owners, but I want to see the results of this before trusting them.

And you know, To be honest, most of whats left of the hard core A2 modders are here. Sadly thats not that many people. It could kill the modding community, but the modding of a2 will not end for many more years.

I know for a fact that fleetops.net would not cease to exist just because a2 files dies, and I think its safe to assume the same about this site.:thumbsup:

But lets be optimistic :) maybe the makers of break are really big fans of startrek, and would do nothing to kill any startrek community :cool:
 

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That is why I think it can not and will not replace A2Files should the site be shut down.

That is my point as well. Even though we will be hosting several mods here as well. I was just pointing out that unlike what several people think, MSFC is not just a gaming site. :)

I know for a fact that fleetops.net would not cease to exist just because a2 files dies, and I think its safe to assume the same about this site.:thumbsup:

Exactly, this site will not cease to exist even if A2 files dies. ;)
 

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I am just saddened by the thought there may no longer be a place such as FF to go to as it exists right now. I like the thought of being able to spend an hour or two file trawling for mods for a game which is out of print and has a great many people still doing really neat things for it.

Yeah, I agree. I would really miss that. The small things that make a modder's life nice, looking at the PotD, voting for the weekly poll, trawling through the file database...
 
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It would be a huge blow. We're fortunate that everything was backed up last time. From my understanding, the backup material was kept, just in case that issue ever happened again. hopefully it wont, but it doesnt hurt to be prepared. all we can do is wait and see.
 

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That is my point as well. Even though we will be hosting several mods here as well. I was just pointing out that unlike what several people think, MSFC is not just a gaming site. :)

With all due respect, MSFC is majority on gaming these days. I see all posts that are made on the site and the majority of them are on gaming and in A2 in particular. Also RPG and Sci-Fi portion of the site came with the gaming portion, there was a reason it was called Majestic Downloads to being with.

But anyway onto the topic while we would never replace A2Files, nor would we try to we would help in times in need.

In that respect MSFC has already offered the Starfleet Kid and Freyr assistance if the worst comes to bare in that we would host their files, bring the community over here and work with them so the community as a whole will survive. Last time we couldn't do that due to the limitation with our then host, since our move and the large amount of space and freedom we have here, supporting the A2Files community and content would not be a problem this time around if it happens.
 

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With all due respect, MSFC is majority on gaming these days. I see all posts that are made on the site and the majority of them are on gaming and in A2 in particular. Also RPG and Sci-Fi portion of the site came with the gaming portion, there was a reason it was called Majestic Downloads to being with.

Yes, I know that. My point were only that we have more than gaming here. And I did say that gaming is a big part of MSFC now. :)

Anyway, I hope BM would not turn FF to a men only site as FF has some good good stuff. If FF became a men only site, it wouldn't be bearable for me to be a member there, not even visit it as a guest. And there is a chance other members would feel the same, at least the female ones.
 

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Yes, I know that. My point were only that we have more than gaming here.

Very true we cater for more and I believe that is our strength as a site in overall.

Anyway, I hope BM would not turn FF to a men only site as FF has some good good stuff. If FF became a men only site, it wouldn't be bearable for me to be a member there, not even visit it as a guest. And there is a chance other members would feel the same, at least the female ones.

It was said by someone that filefront has a 10:3 in male to female members and that would mean over 200,000 members are female. Thats a big membership and audience to loose.
 

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There seems to be a bit of commotion over there about this move, one that is according to the new article to be beneficial to Filefront but many of it's community think otherwise.

I wouldn't say "many". Maybe a few hundred people have initial concerns out of over half a million members. As a percentage that's incredibly minute and I think most people will see that it's a positive move for filefront.

After the Ziff Davis issue back last April, it seems that Filefront could possible be in risk of closure, at least to some of the site gaming sites like A2Files, BCFiles, SFCFiles etc.
Break is investing in filefront to expand it and make it more popular, because that's the only way they can make any money from the deal. None of the network sites are under any risk of closure whatsoever, including ours.

Or worse, they could be turned into something like the rest of Break Media's sites, which have questionable taste at best which I'll not link here as it's inappropriate for this family site, however the names of the sites are there so you can google them or just go to a Filefront site and look at the new black bar at top with all the links to them.

In all fairness, the rest of their sites are aimed at a completely different audience and they are successful for that audience.

They understand that a different demographic needs a different approach and they have been looking for views from the volunteer staff as well as the members. If you check a network wide news item asking what the members would like to see was posted a few weeks back. That was done at the request of Break's editorial team because they were interested in knowing what the members thought.

Having spent a fair amount of cash, they are hardly likely to try and hammer a round hole filefront into a square to fit with the rest of their portfolio.
If you have comments on this please post them here (also on FF as they need to hear your views), as a fellow A2 and Gaming site we are always interested in the going ons in the gaming community. Also considering we have a high interest in A2 this effects us as well due to the threat this could pose to A2Files.

But rest assured if the worst happens MSFC, is here for the A2 Community and will serve as a life-boat site for A2Files in both file hosting and forum and community survivability.

I have already discussed the change of owners at some considerable length with our community manager and i'm satisfied that it's a positive change and that there is no threat to our site. If anybody has any specific concerns then i'm happy to take them up with the Filefront management.

Also reasons I think it could turn into some like this is not just because of there current sites but the comment made by "Mark Burnham, Associate Gaming Editor for Break Media" under the username of "xmadmardiganx"

If their current sites are any indication, I don't like the sounds of that at all. I could just be reading into it too much and I hope I am wrong in this instance.
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And yes, we're definitely looking at the network sites and thinking of ways to make them prettier, more functional, etc.

Yeah, I think your reading a bit much into that. His point is that the network sites look like dated relics of the first generation of websites developed in the late 90's. Which is fair enough, considering that is when the network was developed and they haven't been redesigned since. They are also functionally not far removed from an FTP site.

Much as we might not like the content of a lot of Breaks portfolio, many elements of their designs are better than Filefronts. Imagine having the networks "latest files" displayed as the videos on break's sites, for instance. That's the sort of development that we are expecting. Things that most of filefront's competitors have and filefront hasn't.

It would be a shame if I had to stop going there because stupid users comments were no longer censored, or the adds became intolerable. Simple things like that could really make that site no-longer family friendly and would be a shame for all those how enjoy those games.

It could very easily kill the a2 modding community:(

Ads will actually improve quite quickly. When filefront was independent they had to take literally anybody that would place an ad with us. That led to getting people who would then mess filefront around by altering things so we'd end up punting malware.

To put it simply, Break has more sales people for selling advertising contracts than filefront has (non volunteer, paid) staff. That speaks plainly about the sort of adverts they need to accept.

We're still doing comment moderation, so nothing will be changing there.

Also, I'm not really worried about the community dying even if A2files goes down. (which it won't!) If there was one thing that we learnt from last april it's that we'd still be together as a community even if the worse did happen.
P.S. With as popular as Armada 2 still is, Break Media would be really idiotic to let it go.
Exactly. It doesn't cost them anything other than disc space and banwidth to run a site, seeing as we don't get paid anything for doing it. Therefore, it's not worth shutting a site down. Even the "closed" sites are still active for people to download things from anyway and files submitted are posted. The requirement for a site to be "closed" on the network simply is that it doesn't have any files submitted to it.

You have to look at it from a business view. A2 is a rather ancient game by gaming standards, 10 years old and A1 is even older. One can no longer buy it, it's not open source, and to get one on ebay your easily paying anywhere from $100-$200 dollars. Yes I actually checked yesterday.

It makes more sense for a business to support STO, or some other currently or soon-to-be released game. The A2 Community isn't getting any bigger, as a matter of fact it's getting smaller. If you compare it to what it was 5-7 years ago, it's a 1/3 of what it was.

I hope I am wrong, but looking at it in terms of a business I can't see A2Files being on the top of the keep list. But MSFC is here to assist if the worst comes to be. We'll take in the community, the staff, the mods and the spirit of modding Armada 2 if that's what the community and the A2Files staff wish.

The real point is that it doesn't cost them anything to continue to operate a site in real terms. The only "cost" is volunteers time (eg, myself and the kids time, in Armada's case) because volunteers are a finite resource required to run every site on the network.

Now, I wouldn't be interested in staffing any other site and I doubt the Kid would be either. That means that they wouldn't even be able to reassign us to another site. There is absolutely no benefit to be had from closing A2files. It's not going to happen.

To be honest, I'm not worried about A2Files becoming male-oriented or less family-friendly. The Community could still survive it.
What I'm scared of, is the fact that this could really mean the end of the A2 modding community. Yes, read it again: The END. Nothing against MSFC, it's a fine site and many of the finest members of the A2 modding community hang out here. But we're only a few. If A2Files would really be shut down it would be catastrophic. True, we survived the first "shut-down" last year. But A2files was never again like it was before. And I fear that this time we may lose even more.
If this new owner threatens the existence of A2Files, he also threatens the existence of the community. It's not the forums that are so important. It's the main site. A2Files is a place where the modding efforts of a whole decade are at home. And the community is centered around this ever-growing treasure. If we lose it, we lose the work of a decade. A2Files is like a magnet, attracting those who love the game and uniting them in one place. Without A2Files the community would break to pieces.

That is what I'm afraid of. Maybe I'm too skeptical about the new owners, but I want to see the results of this before trusting them.
Armada II Files will not be closed by Break. Nor will any other site on the network. I'm quite certain of that based on what I know, and if people are that worried about it then I can get the management to state that definitively.

For the sake of argument, even Break did literally pull the plug without warning we'd have a new site up pretty quickly. I'm willing to host it personally on my site, so is AFC and so is Majestic.

The thing that would take longest is simply uploading 15+GB worth of stuff, and that's simply a case of waiting for several days while it finishes. (uploads are WAY slower than downloads)

The result would probably be beneficial to the community, as we'd be able to make changes outside of the CMS framework.

It would be a huge blow. We're fortunate that everything was backed up last time. From my understanding, the backup material was kept, just in case that issue ever happened again. hopefully it wont, but it doesnt hurt to be prepared. all we can do is wait and see.

Well, there's hardly any point in throwing backups away.

Anyway, I hope BM would not turn FF to a men only site
I'm pretty certain that they aren't planning to. However, I'll put the question to them.
 
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Thank you, Freyr. Once again, plain old common sense and straight answers clears up a lot of concerns. As to the part about a small percentage of people publicly voicing concerns, this does not mean others do not have the same concerns. They just lurk instead of post. Just got done reading the things Goody has posted on the news item. He seems upset. Perhaps if someone on Staff over there had explained it all to the FF membership as clearly and simply as you just did here, from the beginning, some of those Comments would not be there at all. I would suggest taking your entire post over here and placing it in the Comment Section on the news item over there. It ought to go a very long way towards calming people's nerves about this whole thing. The FF membership has been taught by FF Staff that FF Staff does not tell them anything other than the minimum about a change like this. And the change is always spin doctored to the happy side even when the results do not match. Small wonder some of them seem suspicious and negative all the time. So Goody being upset and ranting as he did is entirely self inflicted.

Might not be a bad idea to remind FF Staff, all of them, the membership over there wants the same thing as they do. The best FF site possible. After reading your explanation, I see it looks like they may get it. Good deal. And thanks again for clearing things up so succinctly. Kinda wish you were in charge of everything over there. Place would run a whole lot better, I am sure.
 
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The only "cost" is volunteers time (eg, myself and the kids time, in Armada's case) because volunteers are a finite resource required to run every site on the network.

Now, I wouldn't be interested in staffing any other site and I doubt the Kid would be either. That means that they wouldn't even be able to reassign us to another site. There is absolutely no benefit to be had from closing A2files. It's not going to happen.

I'd like to point out that, from a gamer's point of view, it makes more sense to spend large on that A2 disc --$150 for A2 in one shot is cheaper than six months playing STO. If I played STO for as long as I've spent playing A2, in this economy, I would have had to give it up a long time ago.

But as Freyr points out, we can say definitively that neither Break.com nor FF management nor anyone else is going to close A2Files in the immediate future. There are two good reasons for this: Freyr and I. We've had enough time and discussion with the FF management to realize they don't intend to close a site maliciously. In fact, there are other sites on FF with less community activity, less files, and less web visits than A2Files --and whether those communities are active or not, the files remain. If you don't believe me, look up the Tribes Vengeance community site on FF (I can't hyperlink, so just put "tribesvengeance" where "armada2" is supposed to go in the A2Files web address if you want to see for yourself). It's still there. It's just not been active or moderated. It's not linked from the FF weblinks section. But it remains nonetheless.

There's been a whole lot of discussion in this thread about how Break.com means the end of A2Files. This is not the case. Both Freyr and I are in regular contact with the higher-ups on FF. They know how important our site is to our community. Break.com is so far being smart enough to realize that changing what FF and its sites represent by incorporating more of the kinds of things they do elsewhere will completely alienate the users from the FF sites. That's what they're trying to avoid.

And if you think for a second that they're going to change that approach, or make decisions about the site that affects our community, without our input (or, without our open defiance), then you haven't been paying attention. Part of the reason that Freyr and I can so definitely and certainly proclaim that nothing is going to change on A2Files but the layout is because they'll have to come over us in order to do it.

If you honestly want to do something to prevent the supposedly impending downfall of A2Files, then come visit. Post in the forums. Upload your files. Share your news and pics and anything, everything you can, if you're willing. Come on over as often as you're around and show us what you've got. We're more than welcome to any mod content for the game, and we're always looking for new stuff.

But remember: FF and Break.com are NOT closing A2Files. Not today. Not tomorrow. Not for a very, very long time. The rumours of our closure are greatly exaggerated until you hear it from Freyr or myself.

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But as Freyr points out, we can say definitively that neither Break.com nor FF management nor anyone else is going to close A2Files in the immediate future.
That is good to hear. I'm always skeptical when someone buys a site and tells the users that it will become 'better', but I trust the two of you.

Both Freyr and I are in regular contact with the higher-ups on FF. They know how important our site is to our community. Break.com is so far being smart enough to realize that changing what FF and its sites represent by incorporating more of the kinds of things they do elsewhere will completely alienate the users from the FF sites. That's what they're trying to avoid.
Let's hope that you're right... we modder folks tend to be thin-skinned when it comes to rubbish invading our favorite sites. :/

If you honestly want to do something to prevent the supposedly impending downfall of A2Files, then come visit. Post in the forums. Upload your files. Share your news and pics and anything, everything you can, if you're willing. Come on over as often as you're around and show us what you've got. We're more than welcome to any mod content for the game, and we're always looking for new stuff.
You can definitely count on my activity over there. A2Files is still the best A2 modding site on the web, and we'll make sure that this doesn't change.

I would be glad if all of the worst-case scenarios we've been talking about don't come true. But I think it is necessary to talk about them, just in case. I'm not sure if the community could survive the end of A2Files without heavy losses, but it's not the right time to argue about the community's stability. We need a strong voice to represent the community's interests. Never forget that, whatever happens, there's a whole community behind you. ;)
 
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I would be glad if all of the worst-case scenarios we've been talking about don't come true. But I think it is necessary to talk about them, just in case. I'm not sure if the community could survive the end of A2Files without heavy losses, but it's not the right time to argue about the community's stability. We need a strong voice to represent the community's interests. Never forget that, whatever happens, there's a whole community behind you. ;)

Just to be clear, it's not that I object to the worst-case scenarios. I fully agree it's necessary to have some form of succession and community preservation in plan and in mind. But those scenarios remain distant, unlikely and hypothetical. The continued existence of A2Files as a website and as the central focus of the A2 modding community, is not just fact but tradition. And I'm more than a little proud to work with Freyr to maintain that tradition with equal pride.

Believe me, we'll be the first to fight when they threaten our community. That's the kind of leadership we'll be providing on that day. But as I said, that day is not soon in coming, nor has anyone outside of this thread suggested as much -- and most vitally, none of FF's management has in any way suggested or hinted at such a change, regardless of what inference or speculation has considered proof of otherwise.

They're backing the acquisition because it's proving too hard to go it alone. Freyr and I are backing this change because we want to see what else we can do to advance this community and most importantly because they're NOT making grand changes. Beyond layout and quality of graphical user interface, I don't foresee Break.com deciding that they need to "sex up" FileFront any, or bring it down to the lowest common denominator. (This may or may not hold true in terms of advertisements seen on FileFront, but Break.com holds those contracts now and it's not like Freyr or I get to veto ads.)

It remains to be seen what happens next. Let's leave it at that, please?

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TheStarfleetKid and Freyr,

I wish you both the best on keeping the site going and improving on it to help boost the community. I will admit I do have some doubts on breakmedia but that is more from what I know of Corporations and how many things they do are not always in the best frame of mind. But I do believe in giving time to let things play out and allow the true intentions to show themselves. I do thank you for posting your thoughts and knowledge on the situation. I hope they keep you both on as staff and it continues to stay a family friendly site. I would visit there but real life limits what time I have. Infact here shortly the amount I might be able to access MSFC is questionable this up coming year. I am in the military and facing a possible deployment sometime in 2010. Depending on the exact unit I might be with at the time. I believe everyone here at MSFC wants A2files to continue as strong as possible. Like I said before. I wish you both and the site nothing but the best....
 
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Thanks, CrazyFrog. All the best and good luck to you with your deployment.

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