Design the Next Enterprise Contest

[CABAL]

...that tail looks more like something that due to this being a family site I can not say...

You know, I didn't even notice that until you mentioned it and now I can't un-notice it. That's kind of disturbing.

 

[Adm_Z]

I'm all for an STO shun. I can't afford to play it anyway.

 

[Terra_Inc]

You know, I didn't even notice that until you mentioned it and now I can't un-notice it. That's kind of disturbing.

What has been seen can not be unseen. I fail a SAN roll.

 

[SciFiFan]

Alright, I will be the black sheep of the MSFC family and say I will not boycott Cryptic. They are really in between a rock and a hard place. They are trying to cater to two different types of people (in some areas succeeding and others failing). On one end you have the hard core Star Trek fan and on the other the hard core MMO player. Quite honestly I think they are doing a fine job at keeping that balance. There is a lot of "cannon" that they are ignoring but, face it, Star Trek ignored its own cannon on several occasions.

As for the next Enterprise, was not my first choice either. I don't think it is ugly but, it does lack that elegance. The color over was another artist's iteration. The clay model at the bottom of that page came after the color over. Here are some remarks I would like to point out.

"I came into the process after some iterating had been done on the concept between Jeremy and Thomas." -This shows that the color over is just another person's concept.

"Moving forward, it was important that we keep the faceting to a minimum, lengthen the body lines, and soften the curves for that sculpted, designed look, all the while ensuring it maintained the look of the Federation’s flagship." -This tells me that perhaps the unmentionable at the back is not on the clay model. Obviously I can not say for sure but, without a view of the back end of the clay model, no one can.

And lastly this.

"However, I also had to keep in mind that there was a concept I needed to be very true to, more specifically the ¾ perspective and the profile provided by our winner." -Yes he made changes to the nacelles and some other tweaks but, overall I think it is true to the original concept.

I am by no means trying to play devil's advocate. All I am suggesting that we see this thing to the end and then make our minds up.

Also, if you are leaving the game, I just would like you to consider the reason that you are doing it.

 

[Majestic]

Sure that's not Sheilas as well on the Grumpy, short and very sensitive about their weight part

Both really.

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Just curious about this, though, Majestic:

Is this boycott a personal one or a MSFC policy? Because I think I can get behind the idea of a boycott quite easily. I would politely recommend it be submitted to the MSFC membership generally for consideration. I think a lot of us feel the same way, especially after seeing how they've bungled absolutely everything they've come in contact so far. I've never seen a group of developers that made Mad Doc look organized by comparison....

It's just a personal one, one I don't expect anything to agree with or join. With that competition only available to some US states and not to their entire consumer base and now this, has made my mind up about this company. It's a personal opinion, one that doesn't influence STO here at MSFC, if people still want to post threads and screenshots about it by all means they can and should.

It's a free country... um site after all.

Oh yes unorganised, I seriously don't know how they have lasted this long.

Alright, I will be the black sheep of the MSFC family and say I will not boycott Cryptic.

I'm not asking you to boycott mate, just saying I will. This is just a personal opinion and if you enjoy the game then that's great, at least some of us do.

 

[SciFiFan]

Here is Part 3 of the Dev Diary for the Enterprise F. I am not sure if it is just the angle or if they made some additional tweaks but, it does look better than it did in the last installment.

Also on a side note: Season 4: Crossfire is now live. Check out the changes here.

Edit: Here is a look at multiple angles of the Enterprise F.

 

[Styer_Crisis]

Here is Part 3 of the Dev Diary for the Enterprise F. I am not sure if it is just the angle or if they made some additional tweaks but, it does look better than it did in the last installment.

Also on a side note: Season 4: Crossfire is now live. Check out the changes here.

Edit: Here is a look at multiple angles of the Enterprise F.

I don't know if i'm losing my mind or what, but i really like this ship, it has to be one of my top ten favorate designs for a federation ship, ever.

 

[Adm_Z]

It looks much better. No tail, better naclles, inset impulse engines with a singular one for seperation I presume, the 'mouth' is better, overall, huge improvements. I might have to take back what I said earlier if they continue with these kinds of improvements.

However... It does seem to resemble this ship more and more. Contest Submissions | startrekonline.com

 

[CABAL]

It's still much different from the design they picked, but they did go back on some of their more ridiculous changes so it's starting to look very nice, in my opinion.

 

[Majestic]

It looks much better. No tail, better naclles, inset impulse engines with a singular one for seperation I presume, the 'mouth' is better, overall, huge improvements. I might have to take back what I said earlier if they continue with these kinds of improvements.

It's still much different from the design they picked, but they did go back on some of their more ridiculous changes so it's starting to look very nice, in my opinion.

I must agree, it's much better now and if they keep moving in this direction it may be the real really good Federation model that they have made for the game. I am now a lot more positive about this design, let's hope they don't stuff it up again.

 

[StarBlade]

No, it's still a derivative, jagged looking design and I see nothing to commend it. As long as the back end of the stardrive looks like it does, I won't like this one, either. That's just tasteless, I'm sorry. As to the rest of the ship, it's like a Vesta / Sovereign hybrid, and since I don't like the Vesta, I also don't like the lines of this one. There's just too many unnecessary sweeping lines and graphic-designer details for me to ever accept this as a working, operational Starfleet design. It just doesn't work for me. But then, I'm not their target audience, am I?

 

[Majestic]

It just doesn't work for me. But then, I'm not their target audience, am I?

Nor am I.

 

[Hellkite]

I have a question.

Why did they even have the contest ? If they are just going to to change the wining design into what ever they see fit

 

[Majestic]

I have a question.

Why did they even have the contest ? If they are just going to to change the wining design into what ever they see fit

Because they wanted to give the illusion that they actually cared about and wanted the input of the community and their consumers. That or their art department lacks any real skill.

 

[Hellkite]

I will go with both of those reasons

 

[Adm_Z]

ditto. I think both are very evident.

 

[SciFiFan]

The final design of the Enterprise F is announced.

Here is a larger picture of the ship.

I don't think she looks half bad. Worthy of the name Enterprise? Time will tell.

 

[Majestic]

Some aspects I like, other I hate, so all in all not too bad, we could've had a really bad design, one that wouldn't fit at all and there are a few of those in STO already. So yeah not bad at all. I may look into making my own version down the track sometime.

 

[StarBlade]

I didn't think it possible that I'd dislike this design any more, but then, lookit that. It looks like they sliced the ship in two along the center-line and grafted another stardrive into the middle. And it's still got that feminine --shall we say-- aft quarter of the stardrive! Gah. This has moved from 'terrible' to 'disgusting'.

But we all knew what I think.

 

[Majestic]

Yeah that aft bit really needs changing, a shuttle bay there like on the Sovereign/Constitution would've been a much better alternative to that bit.

 

[Styer_Crisis]

wow, i'm really impressed (i mean this is cryptic were talking about). said it before and i'll say it again: i like the design, i think its good and very representitive of the evolution of the line.

 

[Lord_Trekie]

When I saw the initial 2d representation I wasn't much a fan of the design, but the 3d model has grown on me.

 

[Atlantisbase]

There are things that don't look too bad. The saucer doesn't actually look half bad; nor the deflector area. But the link between the stardrive and saucer is horrible and the stardrive section looks really weird from that lower 3/4 angle in the main shot. The nacelles don't look too bad either.

In the end I think the "oos" and "ughs" cancel out leaving things at "meh". So not a terrible ship but I don't think it's worthy of the name "Enterprise".

 

[CABAL]

It's much better than some of the other stuff they churned out making this ship, but it's still very different from the original concept drawing and is too much like a Sovereign in some ways. In the end, it lost much of what made it unique and I find that to be disappointing.

 

[Terra_Inc]

Overall, I don't like how they made it a Sovereign-lookalike, with the ovoid saucer and stuffs. And the "shuttle bay", wtf is this? Lulz. But man, that front view doesn't look too bad.

 

[SciFiFan]

I know there a lot of mixed thoughts on the STO Enterprise F but, here are some more angles of the design. It appears that the "pincer" rear end (though still visable) was filled in with a deck.

Enterprise in Drydock.
Enterprise orbiting Mars.
Enterprise outside of Earth Spacedock.
Enterprise orbiting Earth.
Enterprise shake down.
Enterprise shake down (alt angle)

 

[K_merse]

Looks much better and form certain angles it looks graceful. However, they would ahve to do something with the neck and the back of the saucer, because it ruins the whole illusion...

 

[Adm_Z]

Agreed. the rear top angle is terrible, but it looks great from every other one.

 

[Hellkite]

It still not worthy of the name

 

[thunderfoot]

I dunno. I want to like it, but I am torn beyween my natural desire to support Star Trek and my disgust HK's design wasn't chosen. This is nice if someone wants a dual necked Sovvy wannabe. And if all I knew about Star Trek came only from the Reboot and STO, I guess I'd be happy with it.