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Majestic
22-11-2006, 14:07
What do you think Earth will be like when the fleet finds it.
*Will it be like the really bad Galactica 1980's. :thumbsdown:
*Will Earth be futuristic compared to today and be able to repel any Cylon attacks.
*Will there be no Earh at all.
*Is it indeed the Cylons new homeworld, and the trip was a big waste of time. :shock:
What are your opinions and ideas on this?
Basic theory...
Based on the spoken evidence from the series.
The 12 Colonies were founded 2-3000 years ago, the 13th colony left sometime before that but not outside of living memory.
From our persective 2-3000 years ago human civilization on Earth was in full swing with recorded history going back 4-6000 years.
For the 13th tribe to have found Earth, populated it and lost there advanced tech and then begin the long road to recovery untill today the would have had to have arrived at least 6000 years ago.
That is unless Earth was infact the orginal homeworld before Kobol as is suggested by the use of Earth Constellations as Colony names in which case all bets are off.
Rod
Majestic
22-11-2006, 16:38
There is also the possibility that Earth was indeed the birthplace of humans as you said Rod, and that the 13th tribe went back there and they formed the Greek mythology with the Lords of Kobol as the basis for the Greek gods.
There could of been some natural disaster where the Humans who didn't originally travel to Kobol from Earth were either wiped out or they lost their technology. An possibility of this is a dark age or something where technology caused people to turn against it, due to it causing a plague or disaster. Or the humans of the 13th tribe returned and upon arriving their ships were heavily damaged/destroyed and only the children survived, thus the technology was never used again as the knowledge was never there but the knowledge of the Lords of Kobols survived as it was most likely tought to them at a young age.
It could also be that BSG is not set in out timeline at all and Earth is completely different.
But from the evidence seen and heard already on screen strongly contradicts that last statement.
I personally "hope" that when They reach Earth, that it is able to defend itself against the Cylons. Why, because as the show progresses, there are less and less humans left in the fleet. It went from 50,000, to 49,000, to currently, I think 48,500 or something like that. Even if they only lose one person each episode, they would in theory be down to less than 40,000 by the time they reach earth. The BSG group is basically leading the cylons right to earth. So, unless earth has some awesome firepower, then it's doomed to suffer the same fate as the other colonies.
Lord_Trekie
23-11-2006, 03:08
I think it would be interesting for the Colonials to find a Stargate-ish era Earth, only a few ships, but high tech.
I think they will probably find either primitive Earth or modern Earth, but that the resolution to the Cylon Conflict will come in finding Earth.
Philosophically speaking this series is less likely to come to an end with guns blazing then either show may be. I suggest that we will find that the Cylons and humans will come to some understanding before the end of the series that will allow humanity to survive without Cylons trying to kill them or destroy earth.
Essentially I figure there will be peace.
Rod.
boris1701
28-12-2006, 12:44
It'd be cool if they reached earth and there were Star Trek ships flying all around.
Jasoneagle
28-12-2006, 14:01
There could of been some natural disaster where the Humans who didn't originally travel to Kobol from Earth were either wiped out or they lost their technology. An possibility of this is a dark age or something where technology caused people to turn against it, due to it causing a plague or disaster.
I.E. The Story of Alantis, a city whos technolgy was so great that they where able to leave the Earth when a disaster hit. This could have been the Exit to Kobol.
Majestic
28-12-2006, 15:06
It'd be cool if they reached earth and there were Star Trek ships flying all around.
It would be more believable if Babylon 5 or Stargate ships were there to be honest.
B5 style ships would be a little too high tech. SG ships, maybe have earth in the early stages of that development, ships similar to prometheus... thatd be good
though anything wud be better than galactica 1980's version of earth... talk about cheap budgetting...
Kosh Naranek
30-05-2007, 17:33
I.E. The Story of Alantis, a city whos technolgy was so great that they where able to leave the Earth when a disaster hit. This could have been the Exit to Kobol.
Basically, like what the Stargate-verse's Ancients did with their 'lost' city of Atlantis, eh? Lol.
As for Galactica 1980, while I agree, the effects were cheesy, compared to their modern equivilants, the concept and story ideas were excellent. Besides, it was 1980, what did you expect to come from that time period?
Paulhanselluk
24-09-2007, 04:35
They find earth and the Humans instal AOL dial-up on all the cylons causing them all to crash .......
:lol2:
As for Galactica 1980, while I agree, the effects were cheesy, compared to their modern equivilants, the concept and story ideas were excellent.
Kids that could jump over skys****ers because they were used to low gravity when they were supposed to be staying hidden disguised as boy scouts?
not quite so excellent idea lol :D - more cheesy
Kosh Naranek
13-10-2007, 06:01
Kids that could jump over skys****ers because they were used to low gravity when they were supposed to be staying hidden disguised as boy scouts?
not quite so excellent idea lol :D - more cheesy
Like I said, cheesy effects when compared to their modern counter-parts, but the story ideas and character developement is what I liked.
Like I said, cheesy effects when compared to their modern counter-parts, but the story ideas and character developement is what I liked.
wasnt the effect i had the problem with - more the idea that school children could jump over a skys****er because they were used to living in space - how does that work exactly, if the ships all have gravity anyway. and even so, space is a low gravity environment, wouldnt their bones be too weak to suport them in earths gravity, let alone be able to jump a skys****er
I personally didn't see a great deal fo the later series of the original galactica but i do seem to remember something about basicaly evolution of man going on there, that the kids weren't just special because they grew up in space but they were special alla round (hence one of them being the defacto boss)
but I wouldn't imagine they will be in any hurry to find earth....after all it didn't help the original series very much.
they can throw in a few misses first at least, a few extra bits like a colony that was new earth or another empire in the way (the original series had a lot of fun with their own near human badguys)
Paulhanselluk
15-10-2007, 04:16
wasnt the effect i had the problem with - more the idea that school children could jump over a skys****er because they were used to living in space - how does that work exactly, if the ships all have gravity anyway. and even so, space is a low gravity environment, wouldnt their bones be too weak to suport them in earths gravity, let alone be able to jump a skys****er
What they say is that the gravity on the colonies is much higher than that of earth, so the ships gravity will be set what is there "norm" not ours, so in effect all they are is stronger than us due to a better work out growing up, nothing more.
Jaing Skirata
19-12-2007, 19:29
I honestly think the guys at SCIFI will not make a mistake like with BSG 1980 again, and I do indeed wonder if they will, in fact, merge the BSG and SG universes....
EAS_Intrepid
20-12-2007, 23:03
I think they keep us guessing until the very last moments. Sure is, that there IS a planet Earth in the BSG universe... :)
I honestly think the guys at SCIFI will not make a mistake like with BSG 1980 again, and I do indeed wonder if they will, in fact, merge the BSG and SG universes....
I would very much doubt any merger were possible. One of the edicts governing BSG is that there not be any Aliens (excluding plant and animal life it seems), and is IIRC the reason Edward James Olmos (EJO) came aboard.
I do think there is nice symmetry between the two series in certain areas, for example the Lords of Kobol could certainly be the Ancients, but this sort of theing will have to remain the realm of Fan Fiction, you won't see it on TV.
Rod.
the way i see it (i will admit first to not havign seen every episode)
is that we have 5 new skin-job models about.
we have -apparently- seen 4 of them. what about the 5th?
And teh strange return of Starbuck at the end of s3 possibility she is the 5th model? and the reason she all of a sudden knows where earth is, is due to the "other 5" being there, possibly with a load of humans either original or from the 13th tribe.
Or
As stated in the battlestar Galactica - Razor Starbuck is one of the other 5 and doesnt know where earth is, just wants to destroy them all. by leading them "to the end" as she is the "harginger of the apocalypse" as said by the first hybrid
What do you think Earth will be like when the fleet finds it.
*Will it be like the really bad Galactica 1980's. :thumbsdown:
I personally like Galactica 1980. every episode. while i move even farther out from society norms and say i hate the new series... which i do.
Jaing Skirata
01-03-2008, 02:39
Course, they could come back, and since HH is set in the year 4000, around the time of BSG........
whats hh? Sorry if im being stupid
aha! i see...
(btw nice siggy rod ;) )
Yh nice work rod, I might have to do mine again :p
StarBlade
09-03-2008, 12:22
The Colonials and Cylons will arrive together, and find us in the middle of World War II!
Because if watching the past two series of Trek have taught me anything, it's this:
When the ratings start to sag, bring in the Nazis! :D
thats sadly rather true, it was the moment that happened that i lost interest in enterprise and mostly voyager (saw the rest on re-runs)
Spoiler!
Well, the Colonial Fleet, and the Rebel Cylon Basestar found Earth. or what was left of it.the place was a complete mess. a nuclear wasteland. however, since we couldn't see the land masses, maybe it's not Earth, maybe its another planet that resembles Earth, (Like Terra in the Original series.)
StarBlade
15-06-2008, 14:31
My take on it is as follows:
- That clearly was atomic dirt in Adama's fist.
- Now they're frakked hardcore.
- I'm willing to bet it was the other Cylons who done it, as revenge for the Hub
- The frakkers just HAD to ruin Roslin/Adama and the happy ending -- the writers are good, they almost lost me on New Caprica, just about lost me in the Temple of Five, really did lose me after Starbuck died (took me six months to watch the last three episodes of S3, and then only because my wife asked me if I'd taped it), and only just now got me back. They're SERIOUSLY frakking with me and I'm sorta bitter and resentful that they can't just tell the story, they have to tell the bitter and resentful story. Like, would it seriously kill them to let things go pleasantly and quietly instead of inserting another frakking cliffhanger? They know they have the audience. Why not make the last set of episodes about "now what" WITH a nice, fresh, healthy Earth, instead of "now what" without it?
All told, I was really, really happy --dancing just like Lee Adama, only on my coffee table instead-- and they just couldn't help but deliver one last kick below the belt. They shot the Old Man and I kept watching. They went 'one year later' and I never missed an episode --or a webisode, for that matter. They killed Ellen and Kat, Cally and Cain --and Starbuck. And now they killed Earth.
I don't know, this one's a step too far for my liking. With any luck, Admiral Janeway will pop in via temporal shuttlecraft implausibility, turn out to be the fifth of the Final Five, and take Voyager ---er, I mean, the Fleet--- home again. At this point, I'm not sure I care enough to find out.
:D
Do we know the earth iss all radioactive, I thought it looked allright just a bit old. Presumably if it was super radio active they would not have stood around 4 so long.
I was expecting the cylons to stab them in the back through the whole celebration scene
StarBlade
18-06-2008, 10:09
Presumably if it was super radio active they would not have stood around 4 so long.
The radioactivity was implied by the presence of the Colonial equivalent of a Geiger counter clicking away next to Adama's clenched fist. Doesn't matter how hot the soil is--any radioactivity means no growing plants and no future. Plus I didn't see any plants in the background. Not even grass. So it implies that, whatever happened nothing survived.
:D
Paulhanselluk
18-06-2008, 22:15
Just saw it yesterday omg!
It raised a few questions i thought:-
Was that the Golden Gate Bridge right at the end?
Who built (or rebuilt) Starbuck's Viper?
Is Sol still the XO?
Why was the Crucifix shown? (it seemed almost staged)
What happend to the population (ie was there a war)
This list could go on
I really cant wait nearlly a year for rest:x
All in all a great mid season cliff-hanger
Fireyone
21-06-2008, 05:30
When I saw that, they were finally reaching earth, I knew that the Writer were about to make a joke out of our imaginations, not to mention the music going from a happy tune, to a somewhat bad tone. Not to mention, when they showed the device that read for Radio-activity and the shot panned out to show a nuked Earth, I just started laughing hard, and replied to my parents, "Oh my god! we nuked ourselves!"
-Does that make me Heartless laughing at the Irony of the situation?
EAS_Intrepid
21-06-2008, 06:34
Nope. I laughed, too.
People have been complaining that this scenario was too "liberal" and "pessimistic" and of course "Anti-American", because of the
nuclear deterrence policy of the Republicans. Funny.
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