Star Trek Books

[La Patience]

Yo everyone.

As the title of the post explaines I was wondering if any of you have read any Star Trek Books.

So far I have read

ST: Stargazer books 1 and 2
DS9: A Stitch in Time (Brilliant)
ST: Vangaurd book 1

and have a few of the DS9 re-launch books (Unofficial season 8)

so have any of you read any?

[Jeddy]

i started reading a book about the Titan. i think its The Red king, when i was home over the summer my mum cleaned up and i never saw the book again :( was a shame i was rather enjoying it!

[Lord_Trekie]

I just read the first two Destiny books, Gods of Night and Mere Mortals, waiting for the funds to buy the third or I would have ordered it already...

Recently read Resistance and Q&A, waiting to buy Before Dishonor and Titan: Sword of Damocles since I have the first three of those already...

Honestly I'm not a fan of the DS9 relaunch novels, not the Vanguard series, but I've yet to read any of the Vanguard books so I can't say too much now can I...

[SciFiFan]

These are some of the books I have read.
Three of The Lost Era books
book one of the Invasion series
Titan: Taking Wing
The Red King
Orion's Hounds
I have read a lot more that I can not remember.

[Nalthren]

I have read
The entire Lost Era Series + Terok Nor Subseries
ENT The good that men do
ENT Kobiyashi Maru
ENT Romulan War Beneath the Raptors wing
The TITAN series
The Voyager Homecoming series
Before Dishonor series
Two shatner verse novels (Return and Captains Glory)
Q&A
and a few others i think..

[Majestic]

I have recently read the following:

Myriad Universe: Infinity Prism
Myriad Universe: Echoes and Reflections
Mirror Universe: Shards and Shadows.

I am currently reading:
Titan: Taking Wing and will be following it up with The Red King which I already have.

I must say so far my favourite is the Myriad Universe novels. While not being a fan of Deep Space Nine I even liked the story that had Julian Bashir and others in it, showing me that they are a series I am going to continue to collect and read. I am waiting for the third book now which is due for release later this year.

Some well known names have written stories for Myriad Universe, including Christopher L Bennett, Keith R.A. DeCandido, James Swallow and William Leisner.

[thunderfoot]

I have recently found my copy of Dark Mirror, by Diane Duane. Reading it again for the umpteenth time. Wonderful story. Makes me want to go out and hunt down everything Mirror Universe I can get my hands on.

[Majestic]

I have recently found my copy of Dark Mirror, by Diane Duane. Reading it again for the umpteenth time. Wonderful story. Makes me want to go out and hunt down everything Mirror Universe I can get my hands on.

I've got that book somewhere, thats the one with the ISS Enterprise trying to replace the USS Enterprise in preparation for an invasion right?

I also somewhere, in a box no doubt have Spectre by William Shatner you know the one with the mirror USS Voyager that the Alliance built to take over the USS Enterprise. While not a great fan of his acting I must say I enjoy his Star Trek Books. :)

[thunderfoot]

Shatner catches a lot of grief over his acting style. TJ Hooker or Denny Crane, anyone? lol What people overlook sometimes is he is also a pretty darn good storyteller. I dunno if it is available Down Under, but he wrote an ST novel called, "Ashes of Eden". As good as anything Star Trek I've ever read. Better by far than a lot of other novels by "name" authors.

[Majestic]

I have to order most of my books from either the US or the UK, very few I can actually get from AU due to them not catering very much for Star Trek fans here. I have been lucky to find Boarders in one of my local shopping centres, it has albeit a tiny Trek section but enough so I don't complain as much. :lol2:

Ashes of Eden I think is one of the Prequels to Spectre. He had about 6 books or so that told of the Kirk resurrection after Star Trek Generations. I've only read Spectre however.

[SciFiFan]

I have to order most of my books from either the US or the UK, very few I can actually get from AU due to them not catering very much for Star Trek fans here. I have been lucky to find Boarders in one of my local shopping centres, it has albeit a tiny Trek section but enough so I don't complain as much. :lol2:

Ashes of Eden I think is one of the Prequels to Spectre. He had about 6 books or so that told of the Kirk resurrection after Star Trek Generations. I've only read Spectre however.

The Return was the first book he wrote. It took place right after the incident of Generations. It was a good book. I have yet to read Spectre.

[Lord_Trekie]

Shatner catches a lot of grief over his acting style. TJ Hooker or Denny Crane, anyone? lol What people overlook sometimes is he is also a pretty darn good storyteller. I dunno if it is available Down Under, but he wrote an ST novel called, "Ashes of Eden". As good as anything Star Trek I've ever read. Better by far than a lot of other novels by "name" authors.
Some people argue it's just Shatner's name on the book, and he didn't actually write much of anything. :sweat: But I still think works are decent, esp Ashes of Eden.

[Icewolf]

I've Read;
Ships of the Line
The Last Roundup
Dreadnought!
Uhura's Song
...And two other's that I cannot for the life of me remember :S I want to say the title for one of them were Stitch in Time, but it's been quite a while.

Also, if any of you like TOS/TMP era stories, go find and read the last two, especially Uhura's Song. Their oldies, but very good :).

[SciFiFan]

*blows the dust off*

Welcome back. I have read Resistance and I have a few problems with it. The story was a very good and engaging story. I do recommend it to read.

Now for the problems I had.

1) This involves Worf. The book takes place after Nemesis. At this time, He had accepted the position of Ambassador to the Klingon Empire. In the book, he is being considered for the position as Picards First Officer. That position was already filled at the end of Nemesis.

2) In the final battle, they separated the Enterprise. Now I know this is a possibility but, I have seen any indication that this is an option for that ship. Quite frankly, I can even see the lines where it would separate. That said, the Prometheus hid it's separation lines pretty well so, anything is possible right?

3) The biggest issue. After separating the ship, They cloaked the secondary hull. That's right, cloaked. They explain it as any ship built in the last decade (presumably due to the Borg and Dominion) was built with cloaking devices. The only thing is that it required an Admiral's command code to activate.

I have also read the second and third books of the Invasion series and I am almost done with book four. I have Before Dishonor to read next.

[Majestic]

I am currently reading Typhoon Pack Book 1 and I am enjoying it. I have the second book of the series waiting for me when I am finished book 1, which I am half way through. I have also just finished reading A Singular Destiny and felt it was a great book, Sonek was a fantastic character and really hope that he'll re-appear in another book in the near future.

Sci-Fi Fan please let me know how Before Dishonour goes? It's on my wish-list, pretty much Birthdays and Christmas' now involved mainly Trek books. It's all I really want these days apart from the odd Xbox Game. :)

[swilson0907]

*blows the dust off*

Welcome back. I have read Resistance and I have a few problems with it. The story was a very good and engaging story. I do recommend it to read.

Now for the problems I had.

1) This involves Worf. The book takes place after Nemesis. At this time, He had accepted the position of Ambassador to the Klingon Empire. In the book, he is being considered for the position as Picards First Officer. That position was already filled at the end of Nemesis.

2) In the final battle, they separated the Enterprise. Now I know this is a possibility but, I have seen any indication that this is an option for that ship. Quite frankly, I can even see the lines where it would separate. That said, the Prometheus hid it's separation lines pretty well so, anything is possible right?

3) The biggest issue. After separating the ship, They cloaked the secondary hull. That's right, cloaked. They explain it as any ship built in the last decade (presumably due to the Borg and Dominion) was built with cloaking devices. The only thing is that it required an Admiral's command code to activate.

I have also read the second and third books of the Invasion series and I am almost done with book four. I have Before Dishonor to read next.

First nice job with the multiple spoilers, I didn't know that was possible!:D

I like the idea of Federation ships having cloaking devices. I actually feel the moment the Romulans allowed the Defiant to have a cloak (and this might be Shatnerverse, but his USS Monitor in a book has a cloaking device too). Maybe since the Romulans were our (the Federations') allies against the Dominion, maybe the treaty outlawing cloaking technology on Federation vessels should be null and void, they after all put one on the Defiant and said it couldn't be used in the Alpha or Beta Quadrants but only in the Gamma. What did Sisko do? He used the cloak in the Alpha and Beta Quadrants still.

As for Star Trek books, I like the Destiny Series and A Singular Destiny. I like the new books except for the ones for Star Trek Enterprise. I happened to like the last episode and the books change it with both the Romulan War and with Tucker still being alive, plus the Enterprise books take place in 2155/56 but the last episode (even on Star Trek's official site) says it was set 5 years after the events of the episode Terra Prime (2155) and 10 years after the NX-01 Enterprise was first launched 2151. Both point to the last episode being 2161 as the year, the correct year the Federation was founded, what about the Coalition of Planets from 2155/56 - 2161? Either way I see a flaw in the Enterprise Era books, so called "hoax" death isn't fitting to the year being set in Enterprise's final.

Other than that, other Star Trek books are good and I can't wait to see more after the events of the Destiny Series.

[Majestic]

First nice job with the multiple spoilers, I didn't know that was possible!:D

I like the idea of Federation ships having cloaking devices. I actually feel the moment the Romulans allowed the Defiant to have a cloak (and this might be Shatnerverse, but his USS Monitor in a book has a cloaking device too). Maybe since the Romulans were our (the Federations') allies against the Dominion, maybe the treaty outlawing cloaking technology on Federation vessels should be null and void, they after all put one on the Defiant and said it couldn't be used in the Alpha or Beta Quadrants but only in the Gamma. What did Sisko do? He used the cloak in the Alpha and Beta Quadrants still.

As for Star Trek books, I like the Destiny Series and A Singular Destiny. I like the new books except for the ones for Star Trek Enterprise. I happened to like the last episode and the books change it with both the Romulan War and with Tucker still being alive, plus the Enterprise books take place in 2155/56 but the last episode (even on Star Trek's official site) says it was set 5 years after the events of the episode Terra Prime (2155) and 10 years after the NX-01 Enterprise was first launched 2151. Both point to the last episode being 2161 as the year, the correct year the Federation was founded, what about the Coalition of Planets from 2155/56 - 2161? Either way I see a flaw in the Enterprise Era books, so called "hoax" death isn't fitting to the year being set in Enterprise's final.

Other than that, other Star Trek books are good and I can't wait to see more after the events of the Destiny Series.

Well like I said in another post the ENT last episode wasn't a ENT episode but a episode of TNG. It was the worst episode of the entire series not to mention of all Trek. To continue the series even in book form they had to totally ignore it. Nuff said.

If you like destiny you'll like the Typhoon Pact books which are a squeal to the Destiny series.

[swilson0907]

Well like I said in another post the ENT last episode wasn't a ENT episode but a episode of TNG. It was the worst episode of the entire series not to mention of all Trek. To continue the series even in book form they had to totally ignore it. Nuff said.

If you like destiny you'll like the Typhoon Pact books which are a squeal to the Destiny series.

Thanks for the suggestion on the Typhoon Pact books, I'll actually start to get some.

As for the whole Enterprise thing, lets just agree to disagree, I think its best so no one gets upset with something the other is to write.

[StarBlade]

I like the idea of Federation ships having cloaking devices. I actually feel the moment the Romulans allowed the Defiant to have a cloak (and this might be Shatnerverse, but his USS Monitor in a book has a cloaking device too). Maybe since the Romulans were our (the Federations') allies against the Dominion, maybe the treaty outlawing cloaking technology on Federation vessels should be null and void, they after all put one on the Defiant and said it couldn't be used in the Alpha or Beta Quadrants but only in the Gamma. What did Sisko do? He used the cloak in the Alpha and Beta Quadrants still.

The only problem with Federation ships having cloaking devices, even secret ones, is that it completely defeats the purpose of them NOT having cloaking devices. The whole reason the Enterprise couldn't cloak was because, in the original series, "the good guys shouldn't go sneaking around". Sure we've had twenty years now of Trek where the good guys DO go sneaking around --whether in Section 31 or on the Defiant-- but I still have to believe that the Federation wouldn't rely on cloaking technology in ANY form. It doesn't offer enough of an advantage and is easily penetrated on several occasions on-screen to be worth the effort. And the Treaty of Algeron was a big deal in numerous episodes. I can't see Starfleet suddenly wanting to change this just for some admiral's prerogative and a plot convenience in a novel.

But then I regard nothing in the novels to be anything more than fanfic that comes with shiny cover art. Most of it's badly written and none of it's better than season one TNG. And what they decided to do to the Borg was ridiculous.

[swilson0907]

The only problem with Federation ships having cloaking devices, even secret ones, is that it completely defeats the purpose of them NOT having cloaking devices. The whole reason the Enterprise couldn't cloak was because, in the original series, "the good guys shouldn't go sneaking around". Sure we've had twenty years now of Trek where the good guys DO go sneaking around --whether in Section 31 or on the Defiant-- but I still have to believe that the Federation wouldn't rely on cloaking technology in ANY form. It doesn't offer enough of an advantage and is easily penetrated on several occasions on-screen to be worth the effort. And the Treaty of Algeron was a big deal in numerous episodes. I can't see Starfleet suddenly wanting to change this just for some admiral's prerogative and a plot convenience in a novel.

But then I regard nothing in the novels to be anything more than fanfic that comes with shiny cover art. Most of it's badly written and none of it's better than season one TNG. And what they decided to do to the Borg was ridiculous.

I see your point about the cloaking device for the Federation, and I say you have a point, I'd step aside when it comes to the Federation and cloaking technology.

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When you say what they did to the Borg in the books, do you mean the Caeliar?

[StarBlade]

Yes. Take all this suspense and horror at the prospect of a Borg campaign of vicious and relentless annihilation, add Kathryn Janeway and Erika Hernandez and a bunch of nonsense about some other characters (I honestly skipped over the Caeliar sections of text until the end and read as little as possible to make sense of the plot-- who cares about your gestalt nonsense?) and voila! Nobody gets to use the Borg in a novel ever again! Oh, unless they're renegades or remote clusters or something--- or Borg from another dimension, or Nazi Borg, the von Borgs or something....

I actually started to wonder how they were going to stop the Borg. It compelled me to keep reading. The Caeliar did not. And tying the Caeliar origin to the Borg origin (again, I didn't read closely so I didn't pay attention) undermined the role of events in Legacy, to say nothing of events in A1. Admittedly neither are canon but I prefer those stories to the Destiny storyline. Especially since the concept of Ezri Dax in command of anything is hilarious enough on its own, but in command of some uber-ship like the Aventine actually made me laugh out loud.

[swilson0907]

Yes. Take all this suspense and horror at the prospect of a Borg campaign of vicious and relentless annihilation, add Kathryn Janeway and Erika Hernandez and a bunch of nonsense about some other characters (I honestly skipped over the Caeliar sections of text until the end and read as little as possible to make sense of the plot-- who cares about your gestalt nonsense?) and voila! Nobody gets to use the Borg in a novel ever again! Oh, unless they're renegades or remote clusters or something--- or Borg from another dimension, or Nazi Borg, the von Borgs or something....

I actually started to wonder how they were going to stop the Borg. It compelled me to keep reading. The Caeliar did not. And tying the Caeliar origin to the Borg origin (again, I didn't read closely so I didn't pay attention) undermined the role of events in Legacy, to say nothing of events in A1. Admittedly neither are canon but I prefer those stories to the Destiny storyline. Especially since the concept of Ezri Dax in command of anything is hilarious enough on its own, but in command of some uber-ship like the Aventine actually made me laugh out loud.


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I find it confusing that you skipped over parts of the book, the parts with the Caeliar. Even if I didn't like a part or chapters, I'd still read them.

You ahve now confused me StarBlade.

True, none of the games are cannon, nor are the books so technically, the Borg still exist until either a movie or series ends them once and for all.

[SciFiFan]

Just finished Before Dishonor. I thougt it was very interesting. The book does take place right after the events of Resistance. Once again Earth is threatened by the Borg and the Enterprise must find a new way of dealing with them because the new queen was once a very resorceful Starfleet Officer. There were parts of the book that seemed far fetched even for Star Trek but the story in of itself was a good one.

[Majestic]

Thanks, Sci-Fi Fan certainly will get it after I finsh getting the Typhoon Pact books. :)

The other night I finished Typhoon Pack, Zero Sum Game and it was a good read and the ending wasn't what I was expecting. It really helps to give you a little insight on Bashir and reveals a great deal about the Breen which actually makes sense to me now.

Certainly worth a read just to find out more about Breen culture. I am not onto the second book that involves the Titan and the Gorn. :)