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YY Favourite Destroyer [Poll]

Your favourite destroyer is?


  • Total voters
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Knight

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You will notice all the good Armada 2 mods like KA2 and Zero Hour try and keep the pollies down on their models so they don't affect game-play (lag). It's something we are also trying to do, who would want during a massive battle for it to start to lag and get choppy?

Not me. a slugging match between klingons, gorn and terran empire with lots of ships is something im looking forward to from YY - high polies is not good for that, which is yet another good thing about YY :)
 

Majestic

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high polies is not good for that, which is yet another good thing about YY :)

Something that we (Syf and I) first agreed on when starting Yesteryears, low poly so those members with slower computers can still play the mod and those with faster and have more fun. The simple saying "If you can play stock you can play Yesteryears" applies here.
 

Lord_Trekie

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You will notice all the good Armada 2 mods like KA2 and Zero Hour try and keep the pollies down on their models so they don't affect game-play (lag). It's something we are also trying to do, who would want during a massive battle for it to start to lag and get choppy?
We gotta try and do something right ^_^
 

SquireJames

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Well I am not too fussed about polys in KA2, since the major thing that slows down a game is not polygons, its actually weapons fire (2d) and things like emitters etc. Infact I remember a discussion when I used to mod CnC Generals. Someone did a test, and a model of 6000 polys didn't slow down the game. However, a model of 1000 polys with particle emitters made it crawl. A2 Particle Emitters are far less intensive but, you get the idea.

However, that said, very high polys do make me, well best way I can describe it is an itch. I can't rest until I have it down to what I think is reasonable. As a rule, there is no model over 3000 polys in KA2, and most are below 2000. I poly reduced the Oberth down to 800 because I felt 1400 was too high for an escort (even though ironically I never find myself using many Oberths. I use them mainly in 1 or 2s in a Destroyer Flotilla or Light Cruiser Squadron to detect cloaked ships, I use Okinawas and Okinawa-S starships more than Oberths)

Although I have tried to make KA2 look as good as possible, I have resigned myself to the fact that due to lack of many detailed models for most ships (particularly Romulan and Gorn) it will never be seen as a top mod graphically. I know there are lots of nice models for TMP Fed and even Klingon ships, but I don't like the grey klingon ships, the brown/green romulan ships or the style of most of the Fed ships, and I prefer a unified look over high detailed models. The ships in a fleet need to look like they were made in the same shipyards from the same sort of materials around the same time period. Thats more important than ultra detailed high res ships.
 
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Timothyjmcneeley

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Majestic, post a two images of the exact same ship. One being extremely high poly, and one being extremely low poly, so we all can see the difference. Please and Thank you.

P.S. Syf, if you want to you can do it too.
 

Majestic

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That might be a good topic idea for the general A2 section Tim. I might look into it at a later date. :thumbsup:
 
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Timothyjmcneeley

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Do you want me to start the thread or do you?
 

Elrond

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I love all of those models, but I have a little bit of a thing for the Romulans, so I voted for the littlehawk.:D
 

Syf

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Yes!!! Another one for the rommies on this one!:excited:

You want to see the difference between High and low poly Tim? Look at what RJB does, then look at what we do.... that's the comparison.
 
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Timothyjmcneeley

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I know but Im lazy and I want to see them side by side without a lot of clicking. Don't forget, Im FatMan!
 

Dan1025

Every Mods Biggest Fan :P
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Yes!!! Another one for the rommies on this one!:excited:

You want to see the difference between High and low poly Tim? Look at what RJB does, then look at what we do.... that's the comparison.

Sadly the kind of amazing detatail that RJB is capable of making just kills A2, thats why I'm looking forward to your game versions of his models :)
 
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Excelsiors190

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Both

I love the akula and the pazak class thier both verry verry nice but why dose the akula have fins or wings close to the nacell
 
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Timothyjmcneeley

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Besides I said the same ship. The same exact ship.
 

Atlantis

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Slightly off topic.

Besides, if you can't be bothered to look for yourself, why should anyone else put effort into doing it for you? lol. They'd have to put more effort into finding it and posting it than it would for you to just look for yourself.

I voted the D-12. Klingon destroyers are just great =)
 

Majestic

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I love the akula and the pazak class thier both verry verry nice but why dose the akula have fins or wings close to the nacell

To mount her megaphasers.
 

Majestic

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Well it's clear the Klingons win again, maybe they are making death threats to some of the members here. :lol2:

In any case the next poll will be up soon.
 
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