The Secret Race

[Aerilon]

So, from what we currently know, the following races are going to appear as playable in YesterYears:

- Federation
- Klingon
- Romulan
- Terran
- Gorn
- Tholian (I think)?

The Cardassians I know are to be Map Units. I am sure there are other species that will be here as map units too, but the question I wish to look into, is the 'secret' race that the YesterYears team have mentioned, but will not reveal. There are only so many races that it can actually be. At least, providing they are 'canon'.

My first question, is to the YesterYears Team: Who is this Secret Race?
Ok, so that was worth a shot

My second question is again to the YesterYears Team: Is this Secret Race Canon, or non-Canon? Personally, I believe them to be Canon. It wouldn't serve as much of a surprise if they were non-canon, as nobody would know who they were anyway..

My third question is to anyone who reads this: Who do you think this third species is going to be?

Looking through ENT, TOS & TMP, I can only hazard a few guesses. Those being...

- Suliban
- Vulcan
- Andorian
- Tellarite
- Xindi
- Orion
- Breen (not seen / mentioned before TNG/DS9, but it could be possible to include a TMP version of them)

Am I close anyone?

 

[Majestic]

So, from what we currently know, the following races are going to appear as playable in YesterYears:

- Federation
- Klingon
- Romulan
- Terran
- Gorn
- Tholian (I think)?

That is correct, the Tholians are in it too.

The Cardassians I know are to be Map Units. I am sure there are other species that will be here as map units too, but the question I wish to look into, is the 'secret' race that the YesterYears team have mentioned, but will not reveal. There are only so many races that it can actually be. At least, providing they are 'canon'.

The Cardassian and Tholian are map unit races that appear in the campaign and a few multiplayer maps.

My first question, is to the YesterYears Team: Who is this Secret Race?
Ok, so that was worth a shot

Nice try but you know we won't release that information, you will have to wait till the mod. You understand, your doing something simular with Zero Hour.

My second question is again to the YesterYears Team: Is this Secret Race Canon, or non-Canon? Personally, I believe them to be Canon. It wouldn't serve as much of a surprise if they were non-canon, as nobody would know who they were anyway..

Thats a hard question to answer, I will have to say they are semi-canon like the Gorn.

My third question is to anyone who reads this: Who do you think this third species is going to be?

Looking through ENT, TOS & TMP, I can only hazard a few guesses. Those being...

- Suliban
- Vulcan
- Andorian
- Tellarite
- Xindi
- Orion
- Breen (not seen / mentioned before TNG/DS9, but it could be possible to include a TMP version of them)

Am I close anyone?

Again I can't answer that, though I can say it's not the Orions, as they replace the Ferengi in the mod.

 

[Paul]

Lol , thats why its called a secret race , we wont know til the mod is out

 

[Syf]

Ok, I will tell everyone who the secret race is...

It is the 6th Playable race in the mod.

I can tell you this, the entire fleet is built (well except a couple replacements I still need to make). This includes the Hero Units. I am going to tell you, when you see the heaviest unit, several players may switch to this race in I.A. or MP games to have access to it....

They are a species seen in one of the Star Trek incarnations... But that's the most I can say.

 

[Aerilon]

That is correct, the Tholians are in it too.

Them being a Map Race though, yes? Above, I have them listed as a 'playable' race, meaning to be one of the selectable ones.

Nice try but you know we won't release that information, you will have to wait till the mod. You understand, your doing something simular with Zero Hour.

I am doing something similar with Zero Hour, yes.

Also, I have reason to believe, the secret race in YesterYears and Zero Hour are in fact the same one. If so, this'll be quite remarkable, seeing them from a TMP and Post-Nemesis point of view.

They are a species seen in one of the Star Trek incarnations...

That shortens down my list.. Providing that these guys are in my list...

 

[Majestic]

Them being a Map Race though, yes? Above, I have them listed as a 'playable' race, meaning to be one of the selectable ones.

They aren't selectable as a playable multiplayable race, but anything is possible down the track.

I am doing something similar with Zero Hour, yes.

Also, I have reason to believe, the secret race in YesterYears and Zero Hour are in fact the same one. If so, this'll be quite remarkable, seeing them from a TMP and Post-Nemesis point of view.

I very much doubt that, but it would be a major surprise if they were, not only for us involved in the projects but the community as well.

 

[Avon]

Also, I have reason to believe, the secret race in YesterYears and Zero Hour are in fact the same one.

Well, after seeing you bring up this subject several times Ash, I guessed that is what you were thinking.
I never mentioned it, but I was thinking the same thing for a while

It dont matter really, but would be interesting (and possibly constructive) if you two had a chat in private and swapped notes. No-one else need know.

Man, Syf pumps out them models at a great pace. Wish I had as much stamina.

 

[Steven Kodaly]

I can tell you this, the entire fleet is built (well except a couple replacements I still need to make). This includes the Hero Units. I am going to tell you, when you see the heaviest unit, several players may switch to this race in I.A. or MP games to have access to it....

I believe that this is my cue:
[Mr. Burns Fingers]Excellent![/Mr. Burns Fingers]
I'm looking forward to drooling over your hard work, Syf.

 

[Aerilon]

They aren't selectable as a playable multiplayable race, but anything is possible down the track.

Well, as you have (currently) six playable species, it would make sense to add an additional two at some stage. If the Tholians and Cardassians are going to be your main map races, then it would make sense to include them as the completed (and playable) races in an expansion of sorts. Would it not?

I very much doubt that, but it would be a major surprise if they were, not only for us involved in the projects but the community as well.

Aye, a surprise it would be. And you doubt it, but there are a few too many... consistancies if you like. Some of the reply's to this thread for example have made me think..

Well, after seeing you bring up this subject several times Ash, I guessed that is what you were thinking. I never mentioned it, but I was thinking the same thing for a while

Great Minds think alike mate

It dont matter really, but would be interesting (and possibly constructive) if you two had a chat in private and swapped notes. No-one else need know.

Perhalps.. We shall see.

Man, Syf pumps out them models at a great pace. Wish I had as much stamina.

 

[Majestic]

Well, as you have (currently) six playable species, it would make sense to add an additional two at some stage. If the Tholians and Cardassians are going to be your main map races, then it would make sense to include them as the completed (and playable) races in an expansion of sorts. Would it not?

Indeed it would. Syf and I have had discussions about this in the past.

I am probably repeating myself or you here but the playable races currently are:

1. United Federation of Planets
2. Klingon Empire
3. Romulan Star Empire
4. Secret Race (4th Race)
5. Terran Empire
6. Gorn Hegemony

The map races are:

1. Cardassian Union
2. Tholian Assembly
3. Orions (Replace Ferengi as Scavengers)

Aye, a surprise it would be. And you doubt it, but there are a few too many... consistancies if you like. Some of the reply's to this thread for example have made me think..

Indeed, but like I said our secret race is semi-canon so I say I would fall off my seat if you announced your secret race as the same one that is in Yesteryears.

It dont matter really, but would be interesting (and possibly constructive) if you two had a chat in private and swapped notes. No-one else need know.

Perhalps.. We shall see.

Give him ideas won't you Avon.

 

[Aerilon]

1. Cardassian Union
2. Tholian Assembly
3. Orions (Replace Ferengi as Scavengers)

I see. Well, if you think 'logically' if, in a future release, you would only release the Cardassian and Tholian. Having the Orion wouldn't fit, especially if they are to work as Scavengers. Seems like you've got it sorted out nicely anyway.

Indeed, but like I said our secret race is semi-canon so I say I would fall off my seat if you announced your secret race as the same one that is in Yesteryears.

A few months ago, I would have been, but now, It wouldn't surprise me as much

Give him ideas won't you Avon.

Would you be open to a 'one to one' spoiler of the name of that race (via PM)?

 

[Paul]

I like the idea of the Orion's as salvagers , there culture is all about crime , stealing a damaged ship wont hurt em ! , they would just repair and sell it on

 

[Syf]

If Majestic eve agreed to the one-on-one, I would have to be included.

 

[Majestic]

If Majestic eve agreed to the one-on-one, I would have to be included.

That is true as Yesteryears is our mod not my mod. I just do most of the public relations work.

 

[Aerilon]

If Majestic eve agreed to the one-on-one, I would have to be included.

That is true as Yesteryears is our mod not my mod. I just do most of the public relations work.

Agreed. Though I am still awaiting the go-ahead

 

[Syf]

I will await saying anything either way until Majestic and I have a chance to talk about it...

 

[Excelsiors190]

awwwww

i was hopeing that the orion we going to be a playable race after playing games like shattered universe and starfleet command i got to like them

 

[Majestic]

The Orions replace the Ferengi on the maps. So they will be in the mod.

 

[Excelsiors190]

i know that but i would still be able to get my hands on a marauder class orion ship and so on i know their in the mod but i have never been able to take control of a ship owned by he ferengi or ship the mod have replaced and are the same purpose

 

[Majestic]

Anyone who can edit odf and techtree files can easily change that once the mod is out.

 

[Excelsiors190]

Yes!!

In the immortal words of C.M.Burns. !EXCELLENT!

 

[Knight]

mirror universe Klingons maybe?

they meet the semi canon criteria after all, it'd be a surprise, and as the terrans are already there...

 

[Majestic]

Sorry, the Terrans are the only mirror universe race in YY.

 

[Lord_Trekie]

mirror universe Klingons maybe?

they meet the semi canon criteria after all, it'd be a surprise, and as the terrans are already there...

Sorry, the Terrans are the only mirror universe race in YY.

Dang, that would have been quite cool, and quite original I think.

 

[Majestic]

Dang, that would have been quite cool, and quite original I think.

My former mod Mirror Wars had the Mirror Romulans, the Romulan Republic in it, but I cancelled it long ago to help Syf focus on Federations.

You could say Yesteryears is it's sequal.

 

[Knight]

Dagnabbit. Oh well. It was a good thought though lol. and puts me out of ideas lol

 

[Aerilon]

I know this isn't the case, but it would have been nice to see the Mirror Universe Klingon-Cardassian Alliance.

Maybe an idea for an expansion pack or something?

Also:

Regardless of which, I am STILL intrigued to this secret race. tell us at least, have they been mentioned yet? - Either by you, or one of us on any given thread?

 

[Chiletrek]

Hello:
I know I can get beaten for this, but I suggest that the mod producers must say no to everything even if we can get the answer, because even if we all want to know who is the secret race, we also want to have the nice surprise when the mod is ready.
But here's is another guessing (I bet this is not the answer ): Species8472.

 

[Aerilon]

Considering the amount of races that were put forward, I highly doubt the project team will give anything away by saying it has been mentioned, or it hasn'tbeen mentioned.

It isn't like I am asking them exactly who it is, am just curious to know whether they've been mentioned at all yet. As for the Species 8472 chance, I highly doubt it simply because this is a TMP project. I don't think Species 8472 would work.

 

[Syf]

Sorry, but as Tycoon points out, Species 8472 just don't fit into TMP/Lost era timeline.

Here's a list of races I will say are NOT going to appear in the MOD -

Species 8472
Borg
Dominion
Kazon
Talaxian
Ledosian


There. I hope that helps some.