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[WIP] Talon Hawk

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LOL darn it I was thinking of going more complex next time j/K :lol2:
 

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Actually I agree with KJC, the Borg models being so high do cause lag issues for many. Hopefully their improvements in the rendering engine which is supposed to be released in one of the next patches will improve this so it is no longer a problem.

The 1900 poly version looks great, the advantage of this is stock A2 players can use it without issue. The higher poly version will be useful for people wishing to do renders in game for screenshots. Though I wouldn't put it into FO as a playable unit, only as a screenshot one. A 30k mass buildable model is really pushing it. The highest model I have available is one of my Star Wars stations/starbases and it's 15,000 and it's a one off building. Only one can in service at a time.
 

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Actually I can do an intemediate level of smoothing. Ordinarily I don't bother because the output usually has lotsa distortion errors, but this time it actually looks reasonable. Milkshape poly output would be in the 7.5k region.

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Nice I would see if you could get it at like the 3500 range. That would be the best poly count for Fleet Ops, as it is a ENT era ship. :thumbsup:
 

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Ent era that is was intended for think of it as the Grate-grandfather of the D'deridex class Warbird

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Size comparison to the NX Class​
 

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In my mod I plan to use the Talon Hawk as a heavy cruiser, like the Enterprise class. As I already have a Battlecruiser design (However Hellkite, I am always open to alternatives). :thumbsup:

She is one of your best designs Hellkite and KJC has really made me appreciate the design even more thanks to his excellent work on the model.
 

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Truly he did a excellent job on the model and I look forward to seeing it textured after Jet gets done with it
 
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any news ???
 

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Well I haven't yet revisited doing another intermediate level ship. Been too busy.
 

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roger that I was just wondering if you pass it a long yet :cool:
 

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The low poly one got passed on to Maj along with (I think) the very high poly one a while back. The 7k one I dont think I did and I may try to cut it down when I have the time.
 

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Nice I would see if you could get it at like the 3500 range. That would be the best poly count for Fleet Ops, as it is a ENT era ship. :thumbsup:

How about 4k as a compromise? :D
I'm struggling to shave it down any further.
 

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Ah progress ;)
 

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Any progress Maj or Jet ???? :)

been two week since I ask
 

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I don't know why you'd be asking me, as it's not my project. :confused:
 

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The low poly one got passed on to Maj along with (I think) the very high poly one a while back. The 7k one I dont think I did and I may try to cut it down when I have the time.

"The low poly one got passed on to Maj" Part is why I asked my friend :lol:
 

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It was passed to me but no one asked me or anything in regards to this.

If they had I would've told them that due to the amount of my own work that I want to get complete (YY and TCW) before we have a baby I don't have the time or motivation to do any requests. These next few months are going to be extremely busy for Katala and I to a point that we won't be on much even more so with Summer due to hit soon and the inability to use the PC for more than a hour in the morning and at night due to the excessive temperature we get.

So sorry but I will be unable to so any requests for quite sometime.
 

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Roger that
 

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It was passed to me but no one asked me or anything in regards to this.

If they had I would've told them that due to the amount of my own work that I want to get complete (YY and TCW) before we have a baby I don't have the time or motivation to do any requests. These next few months are going to be extremely busy for Katala and I to a point that we won't be on much even more so with Summer due to hit soon and the inability to use the PC for more than a hour in the morning and at night due to the excessive temperature we get.

So sorry but I will be unable to so any requests for quite sometime.

Sounds like we need to take up a colection and get you guys a solar power central air unit;)
 

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Sounds like we need to take up a colection and get you guys a solar power central air unit;)

We asked the real estate property manager about a air con as she said the landlords want to know if there is anything he and she can do as they want to raise the rent so we asked for an air con. But we haven't heard back and to be honest I believe they will say no. Landlords at least in AUS don't like spending money on their investment properties. I think they totally miss the point about an investment property. :rolleyes:
 

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It was passed to me but no one asked me or anything in regards to this.

If they had I would've told them that due to the amount of my own work that I want to get complete (YY and TCW) before we have a baby I don't have the time or motivation to do any requests. These next few months are going to be extremely busy for Katala and I to a point that we won't be on much even more so with Summer due to hit soon and the inability to use the PC for more than a hour in the morning and at night due to the excessive temperature we get.

So sorry but I will be unable to so any requests for quite sometime.

My humble apologies, I thought I had passed it along with a request, I don't like making assumptions and it makes people feel taken for granted. In my defence I've been trying to keep a lot of balls in the air of late and this isn't the only one I've dropped.

That said, I can perfectly understand you state of affairs. Real life does so have this nasty habbit of getting in the way of the important stuff like A2 modding :lol2: so I wish you luck with your own juggling.

(*for those of you that don't get the subtleties of the understated British sense of humour - I in no way support the view that A2 modding should take priority over real life*)
We asked the real estate property manager about a air con as she said the landlords want to know if there is anything he and she can do as they want to raise the rent so we asked for an air con. But we haven't heard back and to be honest I believe they will say no. Landlords at least in AUS don't like spending money on their investment properties. I think they totally miss the point about an investment property. :rolleyes:

It's not just on your side of the rock. My sister just took posession of a flat recently and it was in a horrible state. She only got to view it a week before having to move in - mould on the ceiling, fridge door not attached, electricty not working right. Landlord hadn't even cleared out the previous tenants leftover stuff or vacuumed the floor. Even the estate agents were disgusted at the state (so obviously they hadn't bothered to inspect it before putting it on the market! And they wonder why estate agents have a bad reputation!) Week later someone had done a rough coat of paint on the roof and clear out the junk. But it's still (at my last report) not the nicest of places.

Back to the Talon Hawk - finishing the intermediate poly ship was one of my tasks for my extended weekend. I need to fire up the old laptop, mirror and combine the ship (I was only doing one half so I could compare the higher and lower sides), convert to obj then transfer to the new machine and check it imports into milkshape. If anyone wants to try doing something with it then either respond in this thread or drop me a pm.

Maj, I'll email you the intermediate version anyway as you had interest in it for Coalition.
 

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It's cool, I just won't be able to work on it. If all else fails sometime down the road when I free up sometime I can always work on it, but really no promises and that time could be like 12-24 months down the track. It really depends on life and all that. It's a great design and model though and yes I would love a copy thanks as I still plan on using it in TCW.
 
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