Medal of Honor (2010)

[Majestic]

Well today I discovered after several years they are releasing a new Medal of Honor, a complete re-boot of the series and guess what it's following Call of Duty and going modern.

While I don't mind the modern-style in small doses I much prefer the WW2 fell of Call of Duty and Medal of Honor. I have always generally favoured Medal of Honor over Call of Duty so I am rather disappointed that they have taken it in the same direction as their main competitor.

What do you all think?

 

[thunderfoot]

As a US Army combat vet, I tend to stay away from games which feature 'modern combat'. I've played a little of games such as these and they are a bit...unsettling to me. Hard to reconcile what game devs call 'modern combat' with what I know of it first hand. The devs almost never get it completely right. 'Realism' to me has a bit of a different feel as regards this subject. It may be unfair to judge them so, but I cannot help myself. One of the things most poorly portrayed is the ease with which units are allowed to tech up to ever more lethal weapon systems. Wars are fought with what you have right now, not what you'd like to have. As a case in point, I present my weapon system, the M1A1 Abrams. Nearly everything on the design and all of the components were available long before they were placed on board. The production prototype was manufactured in 1979. The last version I was on in 1993 was nearly an exact match except for detail improvements and a better main gun.

The other thing 'modern combat' games tend to feature are Special Operations units such as the Green Berets or SAS. Special Forces make up a tiny fraction of most nations' combat units. These troops are superbly trained, well led, and excellently equipped. Some of them may even be as good as your average run-of-the-mill US Cavalry Trooper on most days. lol (Blackhorse, SIR!!) But they are represented all out of proportion in PC and console games. When I was in the 11th ACR, we used to refer to Special Forces as, "Hollywood Soljahs". This was not meant to be a compliment. I'd like to see more of the 'regular' type soldiers and units represented. I already know I'm in pretty much a minority of one. But I cannot help thinking there should be an audience out there for a game such as C-17 Loadmaster or Combat Medic: Kosovo

 

[Terra_Inc]

But I cannot help thinking there should be an audience out there for a game such as C-17 Loadmaster or Combat Medic: Kosovo

Hehe, sounds like fun. I'd give it a try.

 

[SciFiFan]

When I was in the 11th ACR, we used to refer to Special Forces as, "Hollywood Soljahs".

1st Squadron, 2nd ACR.

Were you a scout or a tanker (you mentioned the M1) in a scout unit?

As to the subject at hand, I too prefer the WWII games. I would like to see one in the US Revolutionary and Civil War era.

 

[Adm_Z]

I dis like most games that attempt to mimic life. I prefer completely unrealistic Games like Halo, or battlefront. with out the limit of reality, anything can happen.

Games like call of duty make me sick. I will play them sometimes with buddys of mine, but I think they completely smooth over the whole fact of reality because 1 you dye and come back to life. in reality you have no second chances when it comes to your life. and 2, you have no true sense of remorse when you kill something. when they can recreate those points of a game, I'm all for it!

Something like V-world in caprica maybe.

But what the heck, thats why i prefer Halo, you can die, comeback to life, jump off a building, kill people with lazerguns, ect, and they don't have to worry about reality because they made up their own. you don't have to wory about remorse because they, in no way, try to recreate a tragic war, or the death of combat veterains that sacrificed their lives for either side.

this is getting off topic isn't it

Yeah!, Woot! Go metal of Honor!!

 

[FallenGraces]

well i've been following the dev of the game since late last year and im eager to see it. Personally COD4 was an amazing game COD6 unfortunately was not as good. The Multi is good but for some reason i feel its a lil cheap sometimes. MOH is the 1st game i played on the PSX...still have Allied assault on my comp, and these where easily the best WWII games to date. then airborne came and let us down but honestly im looking forward to some MOH. Though TF is right this time around they are following Tier One operatives in Afghanistan. Personally im rooting for the game since multiplayer is being handed by DICE and i think IMHO that BFBC2 delivered a severe beating to MW2. Course this is just me

 

[thunderfoot]

1st Squadron, 2nd ACR.

Were you a scout or a tanker (you mentioned the M1) in a scout unit?

As to the subject at hand, I too prefer the WWII games. I would like to see one in the US Revolutionary and Civil War era.

MOS:19K30H8 Senior Armor Crewman/Abrams Master Gunner
Job Title: Platoon Sergeant

So you were Cav too? I knew there was something I liked about you, lol. Boots and Saddles! Scouts Out! Nice to know there is a brother Trooper here. Maybe we should start a Fiddler's Green group, hunh? *wanders off whistling 'Garry Owen'*
(Yeah, I had it bad. Real Bad! )

 

[Jetfreak]

I never really got much into the FPS genre in general. I used to play the first MoH game a few years back but it never really appealed to much. I'm all for modern warfare-esque games but I prefer air superiority (obviously).

I'd like to see more of the 'regular' type soldiers and units represented.

Interestingly, the Ace Combat series of games has them regulars intertwined with the story every now and then. Like the average and somewhat off beat tank crew in Ace Combat 6, which was pretty well presented.

Spoiler: pic

Not the hero types, but presented nonetheless as one of the story's many facets. Not everything in Ace Combat is about fighters you know. Funnily though, they tried to steal money from a vault in the bullet ridden warzone in one cutscene.

 

[EAS_Intrepid]

I'd like to see more of the 'regular' type soldiers and units represented. I already know I'm in pretty much a minority of one. But I cannot help thinking there should be an audience out there for a game such as C-17 Loadmaster or Combat Medic: Kosovo

Aside from SWAT4 I never really liked the special forces centered games myself.

Try OperationFlashpoint with its two Addons Red Hammer and Resistance or ArmA or even Flashpoint 2.

Hey, you cannot only be a squad rifleman, but a tanker or helicopter pilot.
Highly moddable, with top quality addons available for free...
(Tanks include a crew of: Commander, Gunner, Driver)

 

[FallenGraces]

Aside from SWAT4 I never really liked the special forces centered games myself.

Never even considered SWAT4 to be special forces....guess i can see it though, still have it somewhere. Good game.

 

[Muad'Dib]

I think that personally for me what I most disliked about Modern Warfare was the way that they eliminated the old series' protagonists who were the grunts in the field, the guys who do the bulk of the job in conflicts.

I hated that the game centered around the SAS and SpecOps vs CoD's original formula of frontline warfare via the infantry. The Marines were supposed to represent the ground pounders, inaccurately featured as Force Recon (Another SpecOps group) as if they were an MEU: SOC (Marine Epeditiary Unit: Special Operations Capable), and they were killed off after 3 stages.

The second Modern Warfare at least focused a little more evenly with the standard US Army Rangers and these were my favorite parts of this game.

As for Medal of Honor, I read that they will feature a similar system to CoD: MW2. Part of the game will be divided focusing on the SpecOps soldiers and partly on a group of Rangers. Whether they will be successful in their execution of this game, I don't know, I'll carefully examine reviews before I purchase anything.

As to the modern setting, while I recognize the sheer absurdity of much of the "modern" aspects (Available technology, tactics, etc) embelished in these games, I do prefer modern settings to WW2 which I'm really sick of. The last WW2 game I liked was Medal of Honor: Pacific Assault and that is because it did 2 things rarely done in these shooters: 1) It was set in the Pacific theater versus the tired old European theater 2) It actually had a story with developed characters instead of a few briefings/objectives lists opening closing levels.

I do have to try out Bad Company 2 which I've heard nothing but good things of, but as for MoH's move it's a gamble at this juncture.

 

[Lord_Trekie]

I like the Medal of Honor games generally, Allied Assault being my favorite I think out of all of them, but I dislike that they think it's necessary to move up to the realm of Activision and try to directly compete with them, yeah, I'm kinda tired of WWII games, but they don't have to try and copy Activision, they could do something else...

Not very enthused about this, but still liable to play it sometime after it releases...

 

[Eisenhower]

Awesome game just short as hell!