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David Foster Pitching New Star Trek Series

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Walternate

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David Foster Preparing to Pitch New ‘Star Trek’ Series | /Film

I just came across this article this morning and I've got to say, I'm really excited. The whole "5-7 year plan" and "conceptualized finale" things remind me of Babylon 5's approach, which worked really well.

The "much younger cast" is a little concerning (brought to mind the clip from SG-1's 200th episode) but the concepts they were discussing (evil in the guise of benevolence, corruption from within) are reminiscent of Deep Space 9. Hopefully this series has a better shot than some of the past attempts!

And here's the relevant Stargate clip on YouTube, since embedding it as link in the actual text messed everything up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37TtMzeV-9I
 
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I actually hope this can work, though it'll be interesting to see where they go with it, and how they do it. Obviously we've got Abrams' vision of Trek to contend with at the moment, so it might be worth letting that settle first?

Suffice to say (just read the article) and they're going for post-Voyager? A little risky I think. It's been stated on the article that they're going to keep in mind the events of the Enterprise show too? If that's to be true, I sure hope we see more Xindi Aquatics. Their Warships ought to be a nice little treat for us don't you think?

Anyway, here's hoping the show is darker, and doesn't involve the ship name being Enterprise. Then again, if its all after Voyager, we'll probably be within the reign of the Enterprise-F? They can't really jump in straight after Voyager, it wouldn't really sit too well, especially after this huge gap we've been waiting on.

One thing that did peak my curiosity though, I see it was mentioned that they're going to make the Klingons' more aggressive again? ~ being that they're fed up having to rely on the Federation? After everything that has been worked out between them, the Federation, the Romulans, and even the Cardassians (to an extent) is it worth turning that all back up into chaos? I thought too that the 'STO' timeline was considered to be true, in which case the Klingons become part of the Federation, no?
 

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The production is currently seeking an executive producer to help pitch the project to CBS.
Well its a nice idea, but still only a pitch with only a slim chance of success.
Star Trek shows get pitched all the time, and it's unusual for someone to be making so much noise about it before they've even pitched it to CBS.

They mention the Bryan Singer pitch there too. That could have been interesting. He's the guy that directed X-men and is a huge Trek fan. Even getting himself a small extras part on the bridge of the Enterprise in Nemesis.

Personally I would have liked to have seen the pitch for a new Trek series from JMS of Babylon5 fame, that he wrote a couple of years ago.
 
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If we're talking about a new show, I'd actually like for them to go back to the era of Enterprise. I've actually though about this quite a bit, how they could start everything up again, right from the get-go.

Brand new Universe, an entirely new story on the flight of the Phoenix (probably best suited as a feature-film) then a show about the first warp 5 vessel. I'd have the five space shuttles as the names of five of the ships, though I'd pop 'Prometheus' in there as the first. Enterprise, Endeavour, Discovery, Challenger and Columbia would follow up.

Stick five seasons in there, with the show (and season five) leading up to the signing of the Federation treaty. Get rid of the Tellarites, just keep it as Human, Vulcan and Andorian. Nice simple trio. These warp 5 ships could have red nacelles (to match those of the Phoenix), then when we get to a new Constitution Class, we could have Abrams' blue nacelles (shows that they've shared tech with the Andorian and Vulcans).

Work the story around the infighting between the Andorian and Vulcans ~ I liked that little twist. Maybe have the odd Klingon scene in there, and feature (maybe between seasons 3 and 4) a feature-film focusing on the Earth-Romulan war (unless you wished to rewrite trek history in which case you could do away with it).

Start a second show up five years after the founding of the Federation, concentrate on a story which features a lot of Klingon activity, in addition to Tholian maybe? I'm sure they could throw in some more new species (it's a new reboot after all).

...then, see where it takes you.

Would also give the producers, developers and directors a chance to get the ship sizes correct in relation to windows, shuttles, and whatever else they've managed to mess up over the years. :p
 
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I actually hope this can work, though it'll be interesting to see where they go with it, and how they do it. Obviously we've got Abrams' vision of Trek to contend with at the moment, so it might be worth letting that settle first?

Suffice to say (just read the article) and they're going for post-Voyager? A little risky I think. It's been stated on the article that they're going to keep in mind the events of the Enterprise show too? If that's to be true, I sure hope we see more Xindi Aquatics. Their Warships ought to be a nice little treat for us don't you think?

Anyway, here's hoping the show is darker, and doesn't involve the ship name being Enterprise. Then again, if its all after Voyager, we'll probably be within the reign of the Enterprise-F? They can't really jump in straight after Voyager, it wouldn't really sit too well, especially after this huge gap we've been waiting on.

One thing that did peak my curiosity though, I see it was mentioned that they're going to make the Klingons' more aggressive again? ~ being that they're fed up having to rely on the Federation? After everything that has been worked out between them, the Federation, the Romulans, and even the Cardassians (to an extent) is it worth turning that all back up into chaos? I thought too that the 'STO' timeline was considered to be true, in which case the Klingons become part of the Federation, no?

In the STO timeline the Klingons withdraw from the Kithomer Accords and are at war with the Federation. They could still keep STO events in mind, who knows how far after Voyager the series is set.

I wouldn't be surprised if they followed a ship other than the Enterprise, having both a TV series Enterprise and a JJ Abrams Enterprise floating around would be confusing and less likely to fly with executives.

Well its a nice idea, but still only a pitch with only a slim chance of success.
Star Trek shows get pitched all the time, and it's unusual for someone to be making so much noise about it before they've even pitched it to CBS.

They mention the Bryan Singer pitch there too. That could have been interesting. He's the guy that directed X-men and is a huge Trek fan. Even getting himself a small extras part on the bridge of the Enterprise in Nemesis.

Personally I would have liked to have seen the pitch for a new Trek series from JMS of Babylon5 fame, that he wrote a couple of years ago.

I read the JMS pitch, it was really well done (no surprise there). It's a shame they didn't consider it. At least this one seems to be taking lessons from JMS' design philosophy.
 
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I dunno, maybe this isn't such a good idea, another new Trek show.

(WHAT?! BURN that heretic! IMMEDIATELY!!)

I'm tired of sitting through something which is almost good enough. I don't want to watch yet another team of writers and producers stagger along for four or five years longer than they have ideas for stories. I don't like the idea of all these people talking beforehand which tends to build up hope and then dash it utterly. Or worse the speculation which goes on among the fans and then when the newest iteration doesn't match or meet expectations, they trash it and anyone who even tries to like it. The discussion around ST:XI got very intense at times. I'd just as soon not go through all that again.

Besides, if all they are doing is talking about a pitch, and they've leaked it somehow to generate buzz, then we're all doing Madison Avenue's job for them. How many people does it take to keep a secret? One. This is a marketing ploy to see how much enthusiasm there is for another show among advertisers. It's all smoke and mirrors and I'd just as soon not have anything at all than yet another tired variation which tries to be different but isn't, not really.
 

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I found this link through a friend at Deviant-ART: Is a new Star Trek TV series in development? - Den of Geek

While I would love a new TV series set after Voyager, or a new Trek series period I really don't like the idea of Klingons going back to the bad guys unless it's set before TNG. We had that turn in DS9 and it wasn't all that good personally. Why use the old can't they come up with something new?

I am with Avon, if there was to be a new Trek series put JMS in the front row and in charge, we then know that while it will no doubt be different it will be great.

But all these rumours and such being leaked I have to agree with Thunderfoot, chances are slim and it's rather cruel of the people doing it before the show is even approved. I am one not going to believe a new series is coming until I see proof that it is coming for certain. I have lost faith with Television networks in the past 10 years so many great sci-fi shows cancelled when they were just getting really good, Stargate Atlantis, Farscape, V, ST Enterprise, to name a select few of a much larger list. I think networks are nasty money hungry *******s (pardon the language) and I think TV shows should really see about if it's cost effective and profitable enough to do away with networks and just do dvd direct series.
 
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In the STO timeline the Klingons withdraw from the Kithomer Accords and are at war with the Federation.
I'm curious, but when is STO set? What year? It was mentioned in an Enterprise episode (when Archer was on the Ent-J) that the Klingons had become part of the Federation, that's not really linked to the Kithomer Accords.

Daniels was specifically stating that the Klingon Empire had joined the Federation.
 
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I'm curious, but when is STO set? What year? It was mentioned in an Enterprise episode (when Archer was on the Ent-J) that the Klingons had become part of the Federation, that's not really linked to the Kithomer Accords.

Daniels was specifically stating that the Klingon Empire had joined the Federation.

STO takes place in 2409, so way before the Ent-J's time.
 

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But STO is a game and as far as most fans are concerned is not canon or at the very least in another time line to both the TNG/DS9/VOY and JJTrek.
 
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