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Ominous indeed. Also, The Last Jedi? Does not sound good for the galaxy.
 

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Are we completely sure it's about a single Jedi? I don't think there's a plural word for it.
 

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Are we completely sure it's about a single Jedi? I don't think there's a plural word for it.
The plural of Jedi is Jedi, in English anyway. I think the Jedi Order may get disbanded and replaced with something else. All prior incarnations of the Order destroyed themselves due to inherent flaws anyway. The same inherent flaws. Or it could be like The Last Airbender and there will be just one, but with the possibility of getting more later.
 

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The plural of Jedi is Jedi, in English anyway. I think the Jedi Order may get disbanded and replaced with something else. All prior incarnations of the Order destroyed themselves due to inherent flaws anyway. The same inherent flaws. Or it could be like The Last Airbender and there will be just one, but with the possibility of getting more later.
Well, considering the fact that the term is most likely derived from Japanese (which doesn't have plurals), it would make a lot of sense. Also, dito on the Jedi Order's flaws - while I'm not a huge fan of the Expanded Universe or whatever it's called these days, some of the books really showed how messed up the system described in the movies really is. Let's hope whatever replaces it doesn't make the same mistakes.
 

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I was literally blown away by all these behind the scenes practical effects work on the SW prequels. The "prequels was all CGI" argument seems so ignorant now...

http://boards.theforce.net/threads/...e-prequels-sets-pictures-models-etc.50017310/

As much as the hype over the sequel trilogy going "all practical". I guess they were just trying to appease the hardcores.
They were actually very good about using practical effects in TPM and AotC. They got a bit carried away with CGI in ROTS, though, doing some things in CGI that could have been easily done practically, like the bridge of Grevious' ship (if I remember correctly) or Kashyyyk, which could have easily been filmed on location considering how subdued the end result was compared to the way it was depicted in the EU, but were still much better than people give them credit for. The biggest problem was probably that soldiers, whether they were gungan, geonosian, clone, or droid, were almost exclusively CGI except for closeups and there were a lot of them. They also used CGI animals instead of the puppet animals of the originals. It's understandable why they did these things, what with an army of extras being expensive and puppets not having the mobility available with CGI, but the effects haven't aged very well and the CGI is very obvious now. The new Battlefront has stormtroopers that look more realistic than the clone troopers in AotC. There's also usually something computer generated on screen so it's hard to ignore. They really did have to do most of it, unless they wanted to do things like make Coruscant's skyline look suspiciously like New York, but it just didn't age well. The originals also used virtually no CGI by necessity so the shock of having prominent CGI at all probably didn't help.

Edit: Filming people in front of a greenscreen and then compositing them into a shot of a miniature also just never looks quite right, no matter how well the miniature is constructed. It's always just a bit... off. That's why the Kamino scenes tend to look kind of fake, despite the excellent miniatures. It probably seemed like an excellent money saving measure at the time, but it just doesn't measure up to using full-scale sets.
 

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The Enterprise (CVN-65) will be formally decommissioned on February third. It was removed from active service back in 2012 after having been in service since 1962. Enterprise is a nuclear powered aircraft carrier, the only one of its class. A new Enterprise of the Gerald R. Ford-class, CVN-80, is scheduled to begin construction next year and is expected to be completed in 2025.
 

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PSA: The new and cheaper DS9 DVD box set is available starting today.
 

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PSA: The new and cheaper DS9 DVD box set is available starting today.
Got mine already! Love Amazon!

Edit: Tried to add an image, but the file upload isn't working at the moment.
 

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Got mine already! Love Amazon!

Edit: Tried to add an image, but the file upload isn't working at the moment.
Seems to be working now. Try again? I could upload my own pictures, but I already proved my camera is horrible.
 

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We're all dooooomed!!!!
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Might just be my computer, I still can't get it to work.
 

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Might just be my computer, I still can't get it to work.
Hmm... What's the file format on those pictures? Alternatively, I use Dropbox when I have a particularly large image since MSFC has a maximum resolution for image uploads (they get scaled down) so you could use that or Photobucket. Probably not ImageShack, though, that place is terrible.
 

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Probably not ImageShack, though, that place is terrible.

Which is also a host we won't allow as it's virus ridden. But dropbox and photobuck are fine.
 

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You can also try clearing your browser cache or doing that registry cleaner thing, if that helps.
 

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I don't see Voyager :confused::no::lol2:
Tis next on the list haha. But that'll be a while. Still need to figure out if it's worth getting all the movie DVDs from my parent's house out east, or if I should buy one of those bluray collector's edition packs.
 

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Tis next on the list haha. But that'll be a while. Still need to figure out if it's worth getting all the movie DVDs from my parent's house out east, or if I should buy one of those bluray collector's edition packs.
You're going to need a bigger shelf...
 

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The official French version of The Last Jedi is Les Derniers Jedi, which apparently uses the plural form. That means the Jedi referred to is a group of two or more rather than just one.
 

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The official French version of The Last Jedi is Les Derniers Jedi, which apparently uses the plural form. That means the Jedi referred to is a group of two or more rather than just one.
Yeah, that's right. As we've previously discussed, it makes you wonder where they're going with this. Considering the Jedi 'returned' in episode VI, it makes you wonder if they're going to stick around ('the last' as 'the only ones left') or become something completely different ('the last' as 'replaced by something new').

I think it would be the greatest irony if, at the end of the series (be that IX or XII or whatever), all the events lead to basically the same situation as at the beginning of episode I. Implying that, after a long enough time, the whole thing is eventually going to start over in an "Isn't this where we came in" sort of way.

In related news, I ... uh ... still haven't seen VII yet. :oops:
 

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I think it would be the greatest irony if, at the end of the series (be that IX or XII or whatever), all the events lead to basically the same situation as at the beginning of episode I. Implying that, after a long enough time, the whole thing is eventually going to start over in an "Isn't this where we came in" sort of way.
That's basically what the old EU was like with a cycle of Jedi backed Republics and Sith backed Empires arising, warring, wiping each other out, and so on, with both the Jedi and Sith orders being wiped out and brought back time and time again. KotOR and KotOR 2 together depict the turning point in one of these cycles as Revan and Malak restore the recently exterminated Sith and found an Empire, followed shortly by their Empire being destroyed along with most of their Sith. KotOR 2 then sees the remaining Sith wiped out, the Jedi Order destroyed, and a new Jedi Order established to replace it, but having learned from the mistakes of the last one. If you add TOR, this new Order has decayed to about where the previous one and the one in the prequels were at, and another Sith Empire has risen to prominence. Even Cade Skywalker, born about 130 ABY, dealt with a new Sith Empire and was affiliated with a Jedi backed organization like the Republic. The pattern even works without the specific factions. The Rakatan Infinite Empire predates the Jedi, the Sith, and the Old Republic, but was steeped in the dark side and eventually fell to civil war.

And now TFA seems to be setting up much the same pattern, albeit with a new dark sided organization instead of the Sith.

In related news, I ... uh ... still haven't seen VII yet. :oops:

Find it on DVD or blu-ray or something! It's wonderful!
 

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@Majestic shared a topic on Facebook a while back about games and multiplayer. Something about weather a game's story should suffer to allow for multiplayer support. I enjoy multiplayer games but, not at the expense of the story. I get games for the story, multiplayer is just a bonus to me. Having said that, I think Ubisoft may have found (at least came close to) a fair balance between the two. I have been playing Ghost Recon: Wildlands open beta on the Xbox One this weekend in solo and multiplayer. While perhaps not perfect, I am much enjoying the game. I could not see where the story suffered to allow for multiplayer. I am very interested in getting the game if I can afford it (which I probably can't). Have anyone else here tried out the beta?
 

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I am of the same opinion as @SciFiFan I also buy a game for it's story. Story is what makes me come back to play a game while games with little to no story I generally play once and that's it.
 

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I agree. Story is crucial. I loved Halo Reach for that reason. Good campaign and story with great multi-player.
 
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